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17 Sep 2021 09:51:08
Our new manager is Steve Cooper? How do I know? Well all I can say is that he has been seen yesterday looking at a house.

doc m

1.) 17 Sep 2021 10:18:17
I doesn't matter who our next manager is and I think it's about time people stop blaming the managers.
The club has been a shambles for a long time now and it's clear to me where the problem truly lies.


2.) 17 Sep 2021 11:06:29
Tomo, mate, sadly without Marinakos there wouldn’t be Forest to support . We’d be defunct except for some glorious pages in the history books. Sometimes you have to sup with the devil to survive. 😕.

3.) 17 Sep 2021 12:00:59
I hope he's only looking at short term rental properties Doc.

4.) 17 Sep 2021 16:34:55
Marinakis is keeping the club alive. Be careful what you wish for.



16 Sep 2021 07:19:00
Allegedly Steve Cooper and Alex Neil are in the melting pot . If it's true both will be trying to negotiate for control of player transfers . This is the problem not paying off CH . Big M is not in control, it's the myriad of people in between all wanting to have a finger in the pie . The club is undergoing a slow death due to their decision to sign player after player with 0 pedigree. We will not get either Cooper or Neil if the managers role is simply a coach . I.

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1.) 16 Sep 2021 08:27:53
Don’t want any of them underperforming idiots, frying pan, fire.

2.) 16 Sep 2021 08:31:40
Alex Neil was at the game last night. Seems odd that he would come to watch dreary Wednesday game at the CG.

3.) 16 Sep 2021 09:34:47
Noooo! Please NO!

4.) 16 Sep 2021 10:35:23
With you perko, nooo nooo nooo to either. I would rather have clough and pearce. Now that would sort this lot out.



19 May 2021 15:22:08
The successful teams next session will have a nucleus of players who have played together at least one season before . So we have McKenna Worrall and maybe Lawrence Gabriel . So maybe a new left back. Midfield we have Yates and Cafu ( Cafu got a contract last season so someone thinks he is good ) . I guess Brennan Mighten to develop further. So we need a midfield dynamo plus a winger and a forward or two.

doc m

1.) 19 May 2021 20:59:54
We need a manager first I'm worried who he will bring in with his tactics.

2.) 19 May 2021 21:02:09
Cafu is a nowhere player. I simply cannot see where his strengths lie. He can't tackle can't head can't shoot, is slow, and his passing forward shocking. get rid.

3.) 19 May 2021 21:54:02
But apart from that, he’s a fantastic player 😂.

4.) 20 May 2021 06:39:18
Perko lol sometimes he did quite well just poncing around looking a little tidy. But when you wear gloves when there's a nip in the air and your meant to be gritty midfielder, you have to be special. Average with NO end product, we need much much better players.

{Ed014's Note - I thought for a minute there you were talking about Paul Pogba! 🤣

5.) 20 May 2021 11:00:14
Agreed Rutland, not good enough. Think he was given a two year contract aswell, who makes these decisions. He offers nothing.

6.) 23 May 2021 20:18:22
Apart from Garner the whole midfield are dross. Get rid of the lot and start again.

7.) 28 May 2021 22:18:41
Id still keep sammy for the bench. Don't care what you lot think. He can change a game, pass or shot. On little wages. Looks lazy and can be. But one of the only players apart from garner sadly i thought could change a game from midfield. Just saying.

8.) 29 May 2021 12:00:01
I’ve got no problem keeping ameobi Bowie, just wish he could unplat his feet and learn to cross a ball.



10 May 2021 21:58:08
Can no one in the FA see the stupidity of the current arrangements between the bottom of the premier league and the Championship. It is an utter disgrace that teams are allowed to yo yo between leagues whilst teams like Brentford have to fight in the playoffs. What's the betting that WBA and Fulham will be promoted next season!
Ed The parachute payments they got season before last surely they don't get again .

doc m

{Ed002's Note - They do indeed get them paid again and I agree the system is unfair and the money should be spread out differently but the argument is based on the disparity of income between the two divisions could adversely impact the relegated side - there have been a few examples of clubs falling away in the past.}

1.) 11 May 2021 09:51:36
I think clubs fall way because the chairman takes out after the visit to the prem.

2.) 11 May 2021 14:34:06
The parachute payments are too big and last for too long.

The way forward is to lower the size of the payouts and only one second year at a lower rate to give teams time to reduce their wage bill etc. The clubs will still have an advantage from being able to buy lotts of decent players when in the Prem but will have to release some.

Problem solved. Except it is the Prem clubs who vote on the rules, so they won't change.

3.) 11 May 2021 18:53:48
Surely relegation is there as a punishment for not being good enough, as for a club being adversely affected, clubs need to do what we the general public have to do to when we have financial difficulties, cut their cloth accordingly.

4.) 12 May 2021 11:15:40
If clubs didn't spunk tens of millions after promotion in a desperate attempt to stay in the promised land then they wouldn't need parachute payments. All parachute payments do right now is allow clubs to be more reckless when they go up. They need to be stopped or heavily reduced, especially since the introduction of FFP.

As said above, I can see WBA and Fulham being clear favourites to go straight back up.

5.) 12 May 2021 17:44:44
I think what's wrong as well is that the parachute payment doesn't count towards ffp. Basically a double bonus.

6.) 12 May 2021 18:40:38
It would be better if the parachute payments were put in a pot that was shared out between all of the Championship and the relegated Premier league clubs based on their relative league position with the clubs relegated from championship missing out.

The concentration of cash in the yo - yo clubs is getting worse and as everyone is saying the three favourite next season to go up will be WBA, Fulham and Shef United. And the rest of the clubs cannot compete financial because of FFP.

I am afraid if they don't fix this then the championship will become predictable just like the premier league.

But I don't expect this will change.

7.) 13 May 2021 06:50:53
The EPL should mandate relegation clauses in player contracts reducing/ capping salaries. Some would demand relegation release clauses but that's fair enough. Promoted teams would find it slightly harder to compete in the prem, but they could redistribute parachute payments and make the EFL more competitive.

8.) 18 May 2021 16:58:12
Good post mctavish.



03 May 2021 22:23:49
Let's us try and sensibly predict our team for the next season . I make no apologies for the below
Samba, Christie, Soh, McKenna, Bong
( my opinion Worrall 15m, will be sold to A/ V to join Matty ) ( Ribeiro will also leave )
Colback Yates Sow Cafu, Ameobi
I think also Johnson will be sold for 10m These are hard times for this club . The other young players out on loan will either sit on the bench or have further time on loan.

doc m

1.) 04 May 2021 08:34:26
Relegation then.

2.) 04 May 2021 19:58:18
Gabriel, Worrall, McKenna, New LB
Artur, Yates
Mighten, Carvalho/ New No.10/ Grabban, Johnson

I predick Artur to have a good second season after being put on a decent fitness program close season and coming back ready to play (optomism/ hope more than predict haha)

3.) 04 May 2021 20:35:59
Red C, I'm hoping the same for Lolley. A good rest and hopefully he can come back a bit like his old self. No close season last year knackered him up, a major loss.

4.) 04 May 2021 23:43:51
Yes MV, we have basically been playing without our best player. It is easy to forget Lolley was previously our best attacking player by a country mile.

I just don't have a clue whether he is medically able to be the same player again. Fingers crossed.

I heard Nick Powell is out of contract shortly. I'd offer him a contract in a heartbeat. He has started 39 games this season with 12 goals and 3 assists! No transfer fee required. New number 1 problem solved!

5.) 05 May 2021 09:52:47
Good shout that, a goalscoring midfield player? Forest could definitely do with one if them.

6.) 05 May 2021 18:02:44
Interesting points particularly about Arter. Christie has grown really well and would like him perm. Worrall mckenna should be a great pairing if mckenna can stay fit. Samba not good enough sorry, too much of a prat. Lolley has issues that i doubt he can overcome. Grabban? Just can't see us starting a new season with his type, offers zero in the air and goes too wide and too deep. We have all seen enough of poor personal performances, and very little collective cohesion. If Hughton stays, which is not nailed on yet, i year contract, then the playing staff has not got the nucleous to take the club forward. Their has to be changes. Not what we want but what we need. This team has been hard to watch and for me that's not down to hughton.

7.) 06 May 2021 22:34:23
Its very much down to hughton rutlandhe picks and sets up the team to play a certain way.
Thats to play not to lose, anything else is a bonus.
Counting the days till he's gone.
Dreadful manager.




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16 Oct 2021 20:54:26
Entertainment at last and great attacking football . Score perhaps should have been 4 2. Worrall was my MofM with out a doubt . Lolley and Mighten dare I say nearly as good as Zinc and Johnson. Garner put in some great tackles . Really a plethora of riches at our great club . All desperate to play . I hope Grabs has found his shooting boots by Tuesday.

doc m

1.) 16 Oct 2021 21:40:08
I'd have given Spence MOTM.



03 Oct 2021 08:37:23
Great result and finally entertainment with some stunning goals. However two corners and a long throw in could have led to a different result by the margin of a post and Samba's fantastic save . Cooper is aware of this fragility that has been present even before the advent of the back 5 . What are our thoughts on its resolution.

doc m

1.) 03 Oct 2021 11:35:54
Two weeks of coaching, the lads we’ve got deserve the chance to improve under different coaching, see where we are in another month if there is still a weakness there then we need to look again, all three of them look suspect . I’ve never been convinced by figs or McKenna but there can be no doubt that worrall looks as suspect .



30 Sep 2021 08:35:00
I know having 5 at the back is popular, but surely you don't pick a formation and fit the players into it? I ask you who would you prefer in this team Figs or Grabban . On Saturday, Let's go for a back 4 ( no Fig )
Colback and Yates in mid and then Zinc Brennan, Lolley and Grabs.

doc m

1.) 30 Sep 2021 09:25:09
Is that plan A or B.

2.) 30 Sep 2021 10:40:21
He didn't have Grabban available for 90 mins. I thought he timed his arrival last night to perfection. Gave us that bit extra when we getting on top of opposition.

3.) 30 Sep 2021 10:51:35
Agree Syred, same with Mighten, stretched the game and stopped them getting back on top.

Good result, well done Steve and Forest, great away win and out of the bottom 3, whoop.

4.) 30 Sep 2021 10:55:50
On the down side, don't you feel sorry for the teams who are up against us that they thought we will roll over under early pressure. They might have to have a rethink of their tactics, so sorry we are playing with a bit more confidence but hey, wait till we really start to play. Bet there's a different atmosphere at the club now .

5.) 30 Sep 2021 11:21:29
It's proved that the players and squad are good enough and that the hughtons and big Sam's are past it.

6.) 30 Sep 2021 14:56:24
Grabban was injured. Figs wasn't picked instead of him, Zinkernegal was.



23 Sep 2021 13:40:30
I hope Steve Cooper gully takes the reigns at our club and gels with Big M . My worry if there isn't a clear out upstairs at the club we will get more misfits . Now this could be idle NEP reporting about a Japanese forward playing in Belgium apparently we are interested in. This is typical of what I hope is the past and not the future. There must be players in league 1 and 2 surely . The Paraguay midfielder is a mystery to me, I am not holding my breath for him either if I am honest.

doc m

1.) 23 Sep 2021 14:05:16
I heard that suzuki lives life in the fast lane. Paper talk mate forget it.



21 Sep 2021 12:06:19
We, as a club languishing at the bottom of the championship, having had past frequent changes of manager, a series of very poor results and low moral, have been very fortunate . To have Steve Cooper is a major achievement by Mr Murphy if it is his choice or influence . He has a difficult task I have no doubt but I feel this is a major turning point for our club in an upward direction . Of course, to quote ' we don't believe in miracles ' but actually we do as it has happened with this club with BC. So on Saturday against Millwall we will cheer his name.

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16 Sep 2021 20:28:34
No it’s 1 m and he will save us from relegation.

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26 Sep 2020 13:36:24
You can only hope SL wins his next match otherwise this club will loose a lot of its supporters.

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19 Aug 2020 22:07:53
Whatever anyone says about the 19/ 20 team, the combination did well and came effectively 6th equal! Ok they messed up after the the virus induced break but that does not devalue the previous 40 games . My point bring players like Silva were an integral part of this team . People are all out for selling Cash, Worrall and Silva, on our past record I would seriously doubt we will get better more committed players. I think we are all risking throwing the baby out with the bath water!

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03 Jun 2020 07:32:22
I worry about our scouting system . It seems and wonder how much input SL has . Rumours are rumours and the NP has to write about something. Recently they have discussed Forest interest in a young portugese midfielder - well we have been down that road before . Twice bitten nice shy would be my view . Then there is the forward who was on Juventus books but now not playing . A centre back and most recently a right back . Are these scouts living in Europe I presume they must be. My view is to get Lyle Johnson at the club whatever the fee. When he came to the City ground he was the best player on the pitch and ran his heart out and scored a goal . He is young and knows the championship game. Of the overseas players we have signed only 2 have been very successful Samba, and Sow and 2 moderately success Silva And Figs. It seems salary is the most important concern before talent.

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24 Oct 2019 09:17:28
Yes this happened last season when Dawson was injured thank good ness we have Samba. If we don’t move higher in the table ie top 4 it will be harder to attract a good striker in January if that’s what we need. Psychology is important . Watson was slated last season now or at least was a hero - what changed! Carvalho is bereft of confidence? Perhaps a time in the reserves would help? Lolley is not playing like he can either. So the manager does not drop them after one gain as that would psychologically be bad . Vis a vis Bostock who had a great game in the cup against Derby but then apparently a bad game against Wigan. I think I would have chosen him last night rather than Carvalho. However Yates I think played well. Dilemmas for SL but a win against Reading is important to move up the league but psychologically a priority for the players.

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19 Oct 2021 21:49:54
What a game, Taylor won the game for Forest . What a manager we have . What amazing support from our away Fans, there cannot be a club with such loyal supporters. What will happen this season is anyone’s guess with SC.

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18 Oct 2021 13:10:52
What has happened at Forest in the last few matches is entirely down to SC. Example, Lolley comes on and takes on two gets past them centres then in theory a goal . All the players want to play . Colback, righty had a standing ovation neatly equal to Zinc . Astute subs . The whole atmosphere has changed due to SC . We can only hope he stays a longer time and becomes a legend as the amazing fans who will travel down to Bristol tomorrow deserve.

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14 Oct 2021 14:30:54
I agree he comes over very well and very complementary regarding SC . I hope for Lyle’s sake he can turn things around for him, as he has for Lolley, Grabban etc.

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14 Oct 2021 08:37:50
DPT Southgate is envious of Grealish’s success that can be the not reason . Working class midland bloke doesn’t fit in.

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12 Oct 2021 21:43:17
What is it about Southgate and Grealish . The most entertaining English player we have had for years . He is taken off on 60 for Sako who did nothing . Foden and Mount considered better . We will not win anything with Southgate I am sorry to say.

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