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25 Oct 2025 14:03:22
Anyone watching Mother England vs The Convicts today? Going to be a grand old dust up🏴🌳.
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25 Oct 2025 16:10:29
Best get the shackles ready for those in the next test 😕🦘🪓🌳.
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26 Oct 2025 15:25:04
Politics.
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26 Oct 2025 15:25:16
Pfft.
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22 Oct 2025 11:02:45
Apropos of nothing football related at all, I looked out over the fields and hills to the front of my house over the Sow Valley and Hanchurch woods immediately to the rear and was reminded of John Keats "Ode to Autumn" which I'd like to share with you.
Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness,
Close bosom friend of the maturing sun;
Conspiring with him how to load and bless
With fruit the vines that round the thatch-eves run;
To bend with apples the moss'd cottage trees,
And fill all fruit with ripeness to the core;
To swell the gourd, and plump the hazel shells
With a sweet kernel; to set budding more,
And still more, later flowers for the bees,
Until they think warm days will never cease.
For Summer has o'er brimmed their clammy cells.
Where are the songs of Spring? Ay, where are they?
Think not of them, thou hast thy music too.
While barred clouds bloom the soft dying day,
And touch the stubble-plains with rosy hue;
Then in a wailful choir the small gnats mourn
Among the river sallows, borne aloft
Or sinking as the light wind lives or dies;
And full grown lambs loud bleat from hilly bourn;
Hedge crickets sing; and now with treble soft
The Red-Breast whistles from a golden Croft;
And gathering swallows twitter in the skies.
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22 Oct 2025 22:48:26
One day stokey you'll wake up and realise how much tine you wasted reading books
To your pist on banter I'm 68 years old but the future is my only way forward, memories are great but tomorrow is what counts.
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22 Oct 2025 23:26:47
I love Stokey, but he's just made my eyes bleed again.
Medic, medic!
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23 Oct 2025 11:50:13
DTP I hope that “wake up day” never comes mate. Anyway, lighten up my friend, I was merely trying to be whimsical. Everybody’s different, thank goodness, and each to their own. Reading never killed anyone. Anyway, I resent your inference that I was “pist” when I posted……. 😂😂🤔🤔🤪🤪.
As for you Lego I actually deliberately shortened this great poem by leaving out the middle verse so count yourself lucky! 😂😂
I may have recounted this story before but when I went on my CID interview the Det Supt ( a brilliant cop and ex Royal Marine, proper “Life on Mars” old school bloke) conducting it asked what I’d done at University. I said, amongst other things I’d written a dissertation on Keats.
He said “ What’s a fu”king Keat? ”
He said it deadpan and our paths crossed many times afterwards but to this day I don’t know if he was joking……. 😂😂😂.
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23 Oct 2025 19:30:27
As he was an ex-Royal Stokey I guarantee the guy had no idea who/ what Keats referred to! Bless him.
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24 Oct 2025 22:39:22
Just noticed this. 7 thumbs up v 7 thumbs down! What’s going on? Can a bit of poetry provoke such controversy? ……. 😂😂😂🤔🤔Is there no subject we can’t fall out about? Amazing!
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25 Oct 2025 21:53:04
Your post was shameful Stokey. How dare you bring up poetry born of our true English heritage? Can't you understand that most native English nowadays can only express themselves by putting up the Union Jack (usually upside down) on lamp posts, or spray painting a shaky-handed version of the St George flag on a mini-roundabout? That is the true expression of our English culture nowadays - not a recollection of ancient English poetry which formed the backbone of our heritage. You should hang your head in shame Stokey.
Seriously though, I enjoyed it mate! Whilst on the subject (and I think your big brain will clock this straight away) do you recognise this quote - "behind her eyes was a light with nothing to rest upon, a fire with nothing to burn"? I'll explain the relevance when we next meet up.
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25 Oct 2025 22:11:55
I don't think it's the poetry stokey 😁😂.
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26 Oct 2025 00:20:33
Stokey, keep it up.
A high IQ, and being well read can never be seen as a negative.
Just finished "The idiot" by Dostoestky. Must admit a lot of it probably went over my head and I didn't relate to it as much as "Crime and Punishment".
And no I am not going to relate it to any posters on here.
Not that kind of guy. The only thing that confuses me about you, is you used to be a Policeman.
At least you aren't a stereo type. Unless you were to include Inspector Morse of course.
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26 Oct 2025 03:11:41
67, Morse is apt and a good observation about Stokey, I'm Football, T. v and Old Films but when I read his posts I'll usually Wikipedia something he's posted what's peaked my interest, be it military, country's history to lantern jawed rulers! 🧑🎓👍.
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26 Oct 2025 10:54:41
Well, I became a Policeman long before Morse ( which I loved… so different from John Thaws other cop Jack Regan) and after I’d graduated with an English Lit Honours Degree….
Lego, mate, there's nothing wrong with a flag of St George and a shaky hand, generally speaking……. I don’t know the quote. Is it from a Fleming Bond story? I’m stumped on that one 🤔
67, I had a Russian phase this time last year when my wife bought me a set of Dostoevsky novels, Vasily Grossman’s “Life and Fate” and I re read Anna Karenina again.
I have phases and fads ( and time to enjoy them I’m retired.
I’m popping over to Nottingham on Tuesday, sadly to attend the funeral of my old tutor Constable and visit an old mate ( and first marriage best man) who’s in QMC having had a stroke. I feel like I have a lot to read and see and do these days with old age creeping on. It’s like cramming for your finals ….
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26 Oct 2025 16:09:58
Stokey - Hard Times by Dickens. Very apt ref Forest ATM.
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26 Oct 2025 20:41:55
I’m guessing it’s a description of Louisa Gradgrind mate? Unemotional and cold due to her upbringing? can't remember that description though.
Confession time now …. I set myself to read the Complete Works of Dickens a couple of years ago, not realising it includes literally everything he ever wrote, including his letters, speeches, short stories and accounts of his travels across America.
I throughly enjoyed all of it, even the unfinished “Mystery of Edwin Drood”……
You probably know my wife and I did a pilgrimage to his house on Doughty Street in London several years ago. It was a thrill to see his writing desk and chair, even his pens. Just brilliant, well worth a visit.
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20 Oct 2025 16:35:31
My heart goes out to Stuart pierce and all family and friends.
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20 Oct 2025 13:52:47
Our thoughts and prayers go out to our legend - Stuart Pearce for the tragic loss of his son. God bless!
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20 Oct 2025 13:31:58
Condolences to Stuart Pearce at the loss of his son Harley, very sad news for all his family.
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20 Oct 2025 13:21:08
Heart goes out to Stuart Pearce. ❤️
Worst thing that can happen to anyone. Puts things in perspective.
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19 Oct 2025 16:58:56
Went shopping this afternoon, bought a lettuce, how long should it last?
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19 Oct 2025 18:53:50
Depends how many pet rabbits you have Carlo? 🤔😂.
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19 Oct 2025 20:58:32
39 days?
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20 Oct 2025 00:27:30
Still last longer than a Red Headed Cabbage.
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26 Oct 2025 16:05:10
Prediction looking pretty good about know🤦.
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19 Oct 2025 16:52:04
Twas only on trump haters i replied eds and you know that. On discussion.? You going to post this. Or do I just leave.
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{Ed001's Note - bull, you posted abuse at other posters with a different opinion. You constantly post nasty posts at Doc M because his opinion differs. This was just another example of you showing your true colours.}
19 Oct 2025 20:33:52
Politics has no place on this site as far as I'm concerned
It's about football or a laugh?
You can't laugh at politics and whatever it won't change the world, cus non of em can answer a question when asked one.
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19 Oct 2025 20:48:33
Yeah doc. For some reason never liked the laddie. Anyway that's me signing off. Love this club, apart from family. Live for it. Take care reds. And remember, never take them around ya for granted. Goodbye 👍.
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19 Oct 2025 21:00:15
Mal get some help mate
Vodka will kill you.
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19 Oct 2025 21:01:21
TACO Trumputin is hated for a very good reason, Bowie.
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19 Oct 2025 21:39:02
Silkman your not helping as you have an agenda and only want to talk politics.
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20 Oct 2025 05:53:37
Silkworm is right though, DTP. Trumpty is hated for a reason. There's no agenda in stating the truth.
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20 Oct 2025 08:55:11
What agenda do I have, DTP?
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20 Oct 2025 10:29:15
Definitely something weird about two (maybe just one) posters on a football banter site that only want to talk about Trump rather than football. Constructive posts or replies about football 0-22 Posts and replies about their messiah. 🌳.
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20 Oct 2025 13:57:05
Confirmation bias, Robin. You obviously haven't seen any of my other posts or replies just the ones you want to see.
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20 Oct 2025 14:38:56
No bias, inaccurate reading on your part mate. Constructive being the word😉🌳.
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20 Oct 2025 15:53:35
Ignore the person.
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20 Oct 2025 18:52:01
If Trump was one of the choices as the new Forest coach, critism of him on a "Football" site would be justified 🤦.
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20 Oct 2025 19:19:13
You must have the same illness as TACO, Robin, Fabricating numbers.
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20 Oct 2025 21:11:36
Saw this in the lonely hearts column.
"dear Donald we're both obsessed with you, your all we think about, all we write about, all we talk about"
At the bottom of the add was a GINDER address and was signed:
"lots of love Barry and Paul Chuckle"
🤣🤣🤣🌳.
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20 Oct 2025 21:43:15
What is a GINDER address?
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20 Oct 2025 21:46:10
And an excellent hyperbole.
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20 Oct 2025 21:47:24
And it was you're boyfriend Bowie who mentioned him first. 🤡🤡.
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21 Oct 2025 08:46:20
Stings when its close to the truth ay Ravers. I only commented on this thread because i know how you and Silkworm work, DTP spoke from the heart and you pair were there ready to pull him down. Smoke and mirrors, played it well for my part. 🌳.
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21 Oct 2025 10:19:38
Hey Red Robin the Chuckle Brothers filmed an episode called “ The Steeple Chucks” at my house when it was derelict back in the day. Have a look on You Tube. They play hapless steeple jacks and the big chimney is still there!
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21 Oct 2025 11:16:15
What did I put that was pulling DTP down, exactly? All I asked him is what agenda does he think I have. I don't see that as pulling him down.
And like ravers asked, what is a GINDER address?
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21 Oct 2025 12:04:09
Grinder* the innocence part played badly there silkworm.
All you pair do is either talk about your messiah or comment negatively on other posts. Must be horrible living with that kind of outlook on life.
Stokey lol, i might give that one a miss🤣🤣🌳.
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21 Oct 2025 14:09:32
Anyway i successfully distracted the pair of you and kept you both off track from talking crap about your agenda. Win win win. 🤣🤣🌳.
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21 Oct 2025 18:59:30
What's the agenda? You and DTP have mentioned the 'agenda' but both fail to explain what the agenda is. DTP is a coward (as he's thrown accusations out in the past but never elaborates) so I don't expect anything from him. So maybe you might explain the 'agenda'? Or are you the same as him? Hmm.
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21 Oct 2025 19:43:12
I don't know, i was just following what DTP said because it clearly gets under your skin. Judging by your reaction you better untwist your knickers me lover🤣🤣💋🌳.
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21 Oct 2025 20:22:17
I don't know what GINDER or Grinder is so I think I'm safe on those accusations.
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21 Oct 2025 20:30:08
I've been in 4 different countries in the past 5-7 days (one of them being the US) so i haven't posted anything negative or indeed anything at all.
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21 Oct 2025 20:46:21
And i'm a monkeys uncle 🐒🐵🐒🐵🌳.
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21 Oct 2025 22:35:16
He lit a good one there winter 😂😂😂.
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21 Oct 2025 22:36:15
I can think of other things you are.
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21 Oct 2025 23:30:31
DTP 🎣🎣🤣.
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18 Oct 2025 19:52:44
Discussions:
Has anyone read about the plans for a rail tunnel connecting Russia to the US?
Personally i couldn't think of a better idea than building a tunnel under the Bering Sea, i mean in one of the most seismically active regions in the world. What could go wrong? 🌳.
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19 Oct 2025 19:38:56
Not going to happen Winter. Simply because the two leaders will never be able to agree on a name for it - the Putin/ Trump Tunnel or the Trump/ Putin Tunnel?!
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20 Oct 2025 21:45:15
Don't mention Trumpty, Lego. Robin will think you've got a soft spot for it.
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22 Oct 2025 06:13:52
All you ever post about is politics.
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18 Oct 2025 13:07:30
Eds. Is Bowie banned? Or missing in action? 🌳.
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{Ed001's Note - he is banned.}
18 Oct 2025 13:57:06
Lol fair enough 🌳.
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18 Oct 2025 14:03:26
And can we have him unbanned please? Pretty please with sugar on top.
We all get carried away from time to time. 🌳.
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{Ed001's Note - he spent days constantly posting nasty posts aimed at other posters who disagreed with his viewpoint, I am not sure he deserves a return if he has so little regard for his fellow Forest fans.}
18 Oct 2025 14:38:15
Ah no, I wondered where he went to, hope your all good Bowie soft lad.
Be good and hopefully you can come back on, your the lovin' Uncle of the site!
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18 Oct 2025 14:55:23
Yeah of course he deserves to come back, just speaks his mind Ed, we're all opinionated and it obviously spills over on occasion in discussions. Its all part of life, sticks and stones and all that. 🌳.
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18 Oct 2025 16:06:02
He does "Bully" certain posters, DocM for one, just does not give other people's opinions may be better than what he post's.
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18 Oct 2025 18:03:39
That's just your opinion and i have mine and i know for one I'm not alone. 🌳.
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18 Oct 2025 18:43:27
Well if I stand alone no problem, but on this I agree with the Edd's.
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18 Oct 2025 18:55:54
I disagree with people all the time. Just don't get personal. It's obvious when it's too personal and not banter.
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18 Oct 2025 19:40:03
Problem with a lot of this is modern society has turned most people into (using one of my favourite northern terms) soft lads. Call someone a name in jest or jokingly and the old bill are at your door. Have a laugh online and get banned.
Alot of people on here get away with passive aggressive jibes at others and blatantly baiting yet nothing happens. i'm very much in the camp of nanny Bowie, say whay you think and don't be wet. 🌳.
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{Ed001's Note - you never saw his posts, so please stop trying to make out he was hard done by.}
18 Oct 2025 19:47:03
Fair point ed. 👍.
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{Ed001's Note - but the bans are not life bans anyway. The idea is everyone cools off and thinks about it and hopefully learns. I have just been busy with my parents staying and have not been about so completely forgot about asking ed33 to let him back.}
18 Oct 2025 22:17:35
Yeah get him back on.
And while we're at it. DTP. Time to join in.
Looks like we are just about to start a new chapter.
Let's hope it goes better than the last one.
Fine margins. We could have scored 5 today. But we didn't. The big man needs to get this next appointment right or all the hard work of the last 4 years could count for nothing (apart from the memories of (course).
Play our cards right we can still have a good season.
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18 Oct 2025 23:45:24
Fair play Ed, I know we don't get to see the posts you stop, so thank you guys for looking after, putting up with us and also for filtering what could really upset people.
Were all good lads but need a slap behind the back of the legs from time to time. 🍻.
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19 Oct 2025 00:14:54
What got me about him, a poster was updating a previous post he made, about a situation he was helping with when Bowie posted "Give it a rest mate", just bloody rude in my opinion!.
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19 Oct 2025 01:14:11
And why didn't you tell him that when he was here Mossy? 😏🌳.
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19 Oct 2025 11:32:40
The poster didn't reply himself, I said "I" thought it rude, "I" didn't assume other people's opinions for them.
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19 Oct 2025 12:10:12
🎶, "I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's got to be strong, and he's got to be fast
And he's got to be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light
He's got to be sure, and it's got to be soon
And he's got to be larger than life
Larger than life"🎶🌳.
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19 Oct 2025 16:41:13
Thank you RedRobinHood I really appreciate that, it must have took you time and effort, I'm, I'm really choked😪.
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19 Oct 2025 17:12:02
Yes, I remember that post as well Mossy.
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19 Oct 2025 18:12:18
Mossy if you don't appreciate me serenading you in my bestest cornish accent, well I'll find a new boyfriend 🤨🌳.
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20 Oct 2025 00:36:18
RedRobinHood I posted I appreciated it or was it just a "Fools Lullaby"😉👍.
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16 Oct 2025 21:15:24
Evening Gents - sorry, a bit of a 'Stokey post' tonight! I know that I've been regarded by others throughout my life as being a bit of a 'dreamer'. I don't mind that at all, but I prefer to call it 'imaginative' and 'forward-thinking'!
I remember as a young soldier in the early 90's Int Corps, briefing Officers about the security of a place called Borucki Sangar in the centre of what we called 'bandit country' in South Armagh, Northern Ireland. I warned them then about the future use of remotely-piloted model aircraft to fly over security and drop explosives within the base (many years before drones were invented). I was laughed at.
I also briefed later that after the Western-world came together to protect the Muslim community in Bosnia Herzegovina that we would end up eventually fighting emerging radical Muslims which had the potential to lead to WW3. Again, I was laughed at.
So, at the risk of being laughed at again I'm going to throw-out a future business-idea about Forest. Anderson has helped to put this idea to the forefront of my mind. What if Forest were to set themselves apart from every other PL club as being the go to feeder-club for English footballing talent? Just think about it for a moment.
We appoint Cooper in charge of our Academy and invest heavily in recruiting and developing the best English youth talent out there. At the same time, we try to focus on recruiting more senior English players with the potential to go into our first team. As football is regarded as a business today (despite us fans. ), can you just imagine how this would set us apart from others and create a 'unique selling point'? Maybe a positive way forward and a future ethos for our club that we are currently lacking?
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16 Oct 2025 23:08:29
I have wondered what Cooper would have achieved with this crop of players? the majority English speakers unlike the ones he had, who needed interpreters to communicate. I don't think Marinakis is patient enough for your blue print, he wants instant gratification, if not produced he throws a srope.
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17 Oct 2025 10:26:38
Football manager 26 is released on the 4th Nov lego😉🌳.
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17 Oct 2025 10:49:42
Thanks for the heads-up Winter!
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17 Oct 2025 11:16:58
Nothing wrong with a Stokey post Lego, mate!
It’s an interesting idea which could be implemented by an imaginative and innovative club hierarchy. Unfortunately we have an alpha male running the show who would take such a plan as a personal insult to his Greek machismo……. and probably burn your house down with you in it……….
I, personally, think the plan has some merit my friend!
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16 Oct 2025 10:39:42
Before the inevitable pain to come on Saturday comrades, tonight I have the pleasure of going to Bridgewater Hall in Manchester to see Graham Nash (Crosby, Stills, Nash and ( occasionally) Young) with Peter Asher ( Peter and Gordon). A real blast from the past. You young ones on here won't know what I'm talking about. perhaps no one on here does, come to think about it.
If you want a brilliant account of rock and roll excess, have a read of "Wild Tales" by Graham Nash, particularly Dave Crosby's lifestyle.
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16 Oct 2025 20:24:16
Hope you don’t Have a day without love Stokie. 🎸🎸🎤.
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17 Oct 2025 00:42:01
If that happens Carlo you can just “Lock me away”
Besides, my motto was always “ if you can’t be with the one you love
Love the one you’re with”
Got me in a load of trouble over the years mate but great fun 😂😂🥰🥰🙄🙄.
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17 Oct 2025 08:58:58
That was an old Police song, no not sting!
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17 Oct 2025 10:40:09
Stokey at a push you could make a tenuous link to Nottingham Forest by Peter and Gordon. Peter is Jane Ashers brother, who as child actors appeared in an episode of "Robin Hood", Jane had a relationship with Sir Paul McCartney who wrote Peter and Gordon's first hit "A world without love" and a few more as well, and McCartney is the writer of our Anthem Mull. You always make for an interesting post Stokey.
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17 Oct 2025 11:09:04
😂😂😂Seriously it was a great show mate, all the wonderful songs and some cracking stories from both Nash and Asher. I hope, firstly, I’m still around to reach 83 ( which Nash is) and secondly that I’ve still got his energy …. The voice is still there and he moves well despite cracking one of his kneecaps in two in a fall in NYC his home.
His story about Dave Crosby’s proposed one day sail in his yacht around Fort Lauderdale bay which turned into a 9 week voyage, through the Panama Canal and finishing in San Francisco was an absolute cracker! He did see a breaching blue whale though, still, he says the most magnificent thing he’s ever seen …….
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17 Oct 2025 14:13:09
Mossy, Peter told the story of “ World without Love last night. McCartney shared a room with him at Jane Asher’s parents house in Wimpole St just around the corner from Harley St where Asher senior was a highly successful psychiatric doctor. McCartney, as you say, was having a passionate relationship with Jane and wanted to escape “Beatlemania “ to write his songs. The family, enormously wealthy, even installed a top of the range piano for him.
At the time Peter and Gordon ( Waller) were singing in pubs and clubs for the price of a pint. Peter asked if McCartney had any songs he didn’t want and he gave him a song he couldn’t finish ( as he said, what can I do with a song that begins with the words “Lock me away”. ) Anyway, he said he went into a back room and finished off “ World Without Love” in about ten minutes and handed it over. The rest is history.
McCartney started writing it when he was 16 …….
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17 Oct 2025 18:14:26
Also Stokey from Google, them songs wrote by McCartney for Peter and Gordon went down as written by Lennon and McCartney?, what gets me is I was 4 years old when that song was released, I can recall all the lyrics as many songs from the sixties, it may explain why music and songs are so beneficial for Alzheimer's patients?, a song from the past can sure stir up many memories, Cockney Rebel "Come up and see make me smile" School disco 1975😉, "oh what a night" there's another 🙂.
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17 Oct 2025 20:57:48
Yes I’m the same Mossy. I’m 68 so I remember songs from the mid 60s onwards. It’s like all the jingles from TV adverts at the time ( milky bar kid, cadburys flake, nimble bread she floats like a bird in the sky) and Tv kids shows like Stingray ( Marina, acqua Marina) Fireball XL5 ( I wish I was a spaceman, the fastest guy alive) etc. However, I can’t remember what I did yesterday! 😂😂😂😂
Incidentally, Asher talked about the Lennon McCarthy tag for “ World without Love”. It’s erroneous. McCarthy actually pushed for his incomplete version to be finished and put out but Lennon blocked it totally because he thought it wasn’t good enough!
The Pete and Gordon version eventually knocked a Beatles song off the top spot of the charts ( can’t remember which Beatles song)
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19 Oct 2025 15:51:35
The TV show music back then was memorable, Champion the wonder horse, Stingray (Marina), Adams Family, still sung today by modern supporters at games. My brother John was a massive Beatles fan, had all the records and his two lads he named John, Paul (True), when he passed all the records was sold by his wife, today how he kept them, would be worth a few bob.
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08 Oct 2025 21:09:29
A point to ponder on the discussion thread fellow Reds. I know there's been a lot of talk about Trump on here and I don't want to labour the point about the lunatic.
However, I had a catch-up on the phone with my clinical psychologist today (yes, I've had him assigned to me for the last 5 years! ). The guy has been qualified as a clinical psychologist for 45 years and is renowned as being one of the best in the country.
I couldn't help asking him during our chat about the best way to deal with a chronic narcissist like Trump. His answer - simply ignore him. I totally get what he went on to explain - the mental condition of acute narcissism is obviously fuelled by attention. Deprive that individual of attention and the general reaction is anger and vindictiveness from the individual.
However, which I get, he explained the condition of chronic narcissism is apparently strongly linked with a very short attention-span. Show a narcissist no attention and they'll go off on one for a bit and then move quickly onto someone else to gain attention from. Trump's interaction with Putin springs to mind.
Something Starmer and all the European leaders should consider?
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09 Oct 2025 05:15:31
Narcissism isn't Trumpty's only problem, Lego.
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09 Oct 2025 06:01:55
TACO Trumputin should be sectioned under the mental health act. He's turning the US into a militarized dictatorship. Federal agents shot 2 protesters the other day killing one of them under his orders. The crackpot will cause a civil war but it won't be his fault (like the current government shutdown isn't his fault. But it actually is).
Anyway, we are provoking the wrath of Bowie as him and his missus are in love with the orange overlord.
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09 Oct 2025 19:40:34
Based on my experience of working alongside every other NATO members' troops, including US troops in Bosnia, for tours totalling 3 years - I can confidently say that the military are the military worldwide. Always knowing that they are putting their lives on the line serving their respective countries, they take pride in their professionalism and devotion to their military careers serving their countries.
This takes me onto the recent debacle of Trump and Hegseth lecturing 1-4 star Generals of the US military on 'standards'. With the world watching, it was a massive public humiliation for those senior officers. With many having done 30-40 years of service - to be lectured by a failed ex-part time Major with alcohol-issues and a fat narcissist with all the signs of early dementia, must have taken the biscuit for the attendees. It's a simple fact within the military worldwide - we don't want our arses kissed but we just ask that our service is silently appreciated.
I guarantee you that this experience will be remembered with contempt for a long time amongst the US military and will be bourne-out in their actions. I notice that it has already started with the General of the Oregon National Guard stating that if he was ordered to deploy his troops he will have them focused on defending the native Oregon protesters, not ICE operatives.
Watch this space I say.
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10 Oct 2025 10:34:38
In the history of the Noble Prizes I bet nobody else has ever advocated themselves before.
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10 Oct 2025 13:08:07
Lego, the presence of Trump in the White House is the sole reason my wife and I have postponed planned trips to the US until he and his henchmen have gone. You may think that’s an over reaction but I read about the lad from Derby ( this is not a joke) who got a tattoo ( in the UK) not knowing it was a symbol of some Columbian Drugs Cartel. He (entirely innocently ) took his family to Disney world in Florida and was detained for a couple of days of his holiday whilst they checked him out, his family meanwhile being put at their own expense in some ropey hotel.
An orange Guantanamo Bay suit doesn’t suit my fashion sense…….
There is a massive cut in tourism from Europe to the US generally and with good reason.
Carlo, as for the Nobel Peace Prize, I’m reminded of the Roman historian Tacitus and his famous quote about his countrymen “ They create a desert and call it peace “. …. He was writing about Agricola’s campaign to suppress the Brits in the first century AD.
When the Romans finally captured Carthage ( in modern day Tunisia) they killed all the men, enslaved the women and children and destroyed the city brick by brick. They even dug salt into the surrounding fields so no crops could be grown there for years.
A century later the Romans rebuilt it lavishly as Roman City. A bit like Trumps plan to remove the Palestinians, bulldoze the bodies and create a tourist paradise a few years down the line…….
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10 Oct 2025 13:14:31
Incidentally, Lego, numerous ex squaddies I’ve worked with in the Police were very disparaging about US troops. I remember comments such as “ US Marines? Rubbish! A ten year old could pass their fitness test”.
Another remarked how an exercise in Germany was abandoned because some American units went on strike because their mail hadn’t come through.
But I share your sentiments about the distinguished Generals being lectured by a convicted fraudster and adjudicated rapist and an alcoholic.
What were your views on the quality of US troops you came across mate?
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10 Oct 2025 14:37:21
Two most talked about subjects on discussions:dead people and trump, it's people like you guys who feed his narcissistic ego, always debating his pros and cons. 🌳.
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10 Oct 2025 17:21:22
What pros?
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10 Oct 2025 18:02:11
Winter - this is the discussion thread mate. As far as I'm aware, we can discuss most things on here. To talk about a lunatic and his antics, who just happens to be the most powerful man in the world, I think is justified when his irrational decisions can affect the UK immensely.
Trump also has a devoted follower of his beliefs in Farage. If Reform gets in here at the next election god help us all. Personally, I'll be off to live in the Southern Spanish mountains with Mrs Legolas if that happens.
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10 Oct 2025 18:19:29
His pros are a non starter because he hasn't got any. 🤣🤣🤣.
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10 Oct 2025 19:12:26
Pros-he keeps cosmetic companies in business with his huge fake tan orders!
It wasn't necessarily a dig at anyone more an observation and think about what i wrote, feed a narcissist and egg him on, everyone complains about Trump especially in the media yet the papers and news channels can't get enough of him.
I suppose you guys are just falling in line😉🌳.
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10 Oct 2025 19:33:36
Good question Stokey - I found the majority of the US troops that I served alongside for 3 years absolutely awful. Us Brits used to take over from them to make up for their deficiencies. I always thought the Yanks we 'triers' yet when their technology went down we referred to them as having 'all the gear, with no idea'. (Most of their 'advanced technology' failed in the operational environment of Bosnia).
They did have some brilliant middle/ high ranking Officers though, whom I really respected. I remember having a meal in a tent in Sarajevo sat opposite a 1 star US General. OK, he wasn't that talkative - but the fact that he wanted to eat with his troops meant a lot to me. That would never have happened in the British Army.
The best foreign Army I have served with? - without doubt the French Army. I found even their 'regulars' on a par with us Brits. They probably saved my life on 'Snipers Alley' in 1995. However, I found the French Foreign Legion something else to serve alongside. They seemed to be full of ex-Irish who were total pissheads in the evening. However, they would wake in the morning and be the ultimate soldiers the next day. All 3 factions in Bosnia were afraid of them.
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10 Oct 2025 20:46:51
I like trump and I hope farage gets in. the country definitely can't get any worse than it is now.
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10 Oct 2025 20:48:15
He has no pros and he is a con! 😂😂😂😂
Red Robin I don’t think we feed his “narcissistic ego” mate. Unless you think the Orange Man Baby has his morning briefing from the Heads of the CIA, the FBI, the Pentagon, the State Department etc then says to the assembled staff “ Hang on, let’s find out what those crazy guys on the Forest Banter site have to say”! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
You are right though my friend …. Beethoven, Bach, Vivaldi, Vaughn Williams, Corelli, Dickens, Hardy, Tolstoy, TS Elliott, Shakespeare, Wordsworth, Satre, Plato, Brunel, Stephenson, Archimedes, Turing, Mandela, Churchill and Le Corbusier are all dead…. so what’s the point? 😂😂😂😂😂.
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10 Oct 2025 21:41:28
Point being your all joining his narrative just by talking about him, i know he doesn't fooking read here.
If you all hate him so much why does his name come up on here more often than most of our clubs players?
We all know there's several on here with a man crush on him. All they post about and reference is the Tango Tyrant.
And if i'm brutally honest i love a good whinge🤣
Skegs your better at pushing buttons than me, i gracefully leave the floor to you🤣
🌳🌳🌳.
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11 Oct 2025 05:58:13
It's got nothing to do with a man crush its the fact of how dangerous he is in an increasingly dangerous world. You'd expect the leader of the world's most powerful country to be a calming influence but he's just making things more volatile. He doesn't know what day of the week it is most of the time.
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11 Oct 2025 10:53:20
🎶"As soon as I wake up
Every night, every day
I know that it's you I need
To take the blues away
It must be love, love, love
It must be love, love, love
Nothing more
Nothing less
Love is the best"🎶
👉👌🤣🌳.
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11 Oct 2025 14:30:21
Not from a military background but do admire our Forces. From going within a day of entering Basra in Iraq going straight to soft power with caps and minimum protection, and interacting with the local community.
But I remember one night in the 80s when the programme was interrupted, and live footage was shown of the Iranian hostage was shown, these men in black showed up and went into Action, it was mesmerising what they did that night. The next day the Worlds press was saying who are they!, and the SAS become into public domain, Foreign powers wanted there own, the Americans sent a unit over to Hereford to train with the SAS, ( this next bit is from a tabloid of the time). The Americans looked like quarter backs massive! , buzz cut hair they went into the mess to see men lounging about, long hair and beards and a passing regard to rank, next day the Americans went on a general assault course and march, by the end, all the American soldiers had threw up!. The Americans went on to form Delta Forse and a bond was formed with the SAS, as even today they work closely together.
I don't half miss the Premier during these international breaks🤷.
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12 Oct 2025 15:25:58
Lego, your comments on the French Foreign Legion are very interesting. I don’t know whether it’s the same nowadays but back in Thatcher's days ( of high UK unemployment) many Brits signed up for that unit.
I remember the story of how the IDF in the Lebanon would routinely smash through UN checkpoints without stopping. Then the Foreign Legion arrived and put the French tricolour on the road in front of one of their check points.
The Israeli convoy drove over it but were stopped further down the road by a FFL tank blocking the road. A massive fist fight ensued as a result of the ( deliberately engineered) insult to the flag. Guess which side won ( and which side always made a point of stopping at FFL checkpoints thereafter)?
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12 Oct 2025 21:50:11
And what about all these wars he said he's ended. Just lies, lies and damned lies.
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13 Oct 2025 13:46:59
Silk, one of the wars Trump said he’d ended was between Armenia and Albania, which must have come as a complete surprise to both countries mate! India Pakistan, a border clash sorted out ( until next time anyway) by local military senior commanders, the others he mentioned are still going on at low level.
Incidentally, the Middle East war in Gaza will still go on when Iran has re armed and reorganised Hamas. No Israeli will rest easy. It’s a tragic situation wrapped up in centuries of historical conflict. Still, miracles do happen. If Tony Blair did nothing else ever his resolution of the Northern Ireland conflict with Clinton is still remarkable. Whoever would have imagined Ian Paisley and Martin McGuiness sitting down together and getting on very very well. Incredible really, helped by exhaustion on all sides.
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13 Oct 2025 17:31:23
Stokey - something else that impressed me, aside from their soldiering skills, was their ability to speak absolutely fluent French. That must take some effort in itself for people from all over the world to learn a new language from scratch.
The Legion were also very respectful to me personally. I wasn't there to match them in terms of soldiering-skills, but they respected my advice in terms of the security of where they were staying and also during the few Int briefings that I gave to their Officers and SNCO's when the stuff was about to hit the fan in Bosnia.
Very impressive soldiers in every respect.
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13 Oct 2025 19:25:21
Looking back, I suppose that I have been quite 'privileged' at what I experienced during my Army service. I was in the vast minority in those days to say the least! I earned that privilege through bloody hard work though. Put it like this - when I joined the Intelligence Corps in 1990 we were no.2 in the Army league table of what they coldly called in those days as 'wastage rates' (ie. those who failed trade training within the various Regiments/ Corps of the British Army). Only the SAS were ranked above the Int Corps in those terms back then.
I met some superb, and unique, soldiers in those days. I want to tell you all about the most impressive soldier that I ever met during my service. I've got to be a bit careful about what I say here - but I suppose if the MOD charges me with a breach of the Official Secrets Act at least I'll get a free room and food for the next 7 years!
When I was serving alongside a very 'specialist unit' in Northern Ireland in 1993/ 4 providing their Intelligence-support I met a very 'average' looking bloke within the unit. I now hate myself for judging him on my first-impressions, but I suppose we all do that to a degree. To me, he looked like some average factory worker (as I was previously) and I found him very standoffish.
Then, bizarrely, one night he came over to me in the unit bar and sat by me. Neither of us were drunk - he was drinking orange juice and I had just started on my 2nd beer. He then totally opened-up to me and we chatted for about 2 hours. Why he felt the need to do this I'll never know, but we got on like a house on fire.
It transpired that this 'average' looking bloke had initially joined the Parachute Regiment of the British Army. Tough enough. He then, in his words, 'got bored' after a few years and left to join the French Foreign Legion. He told me many stories of that time - including where as recruits they would not get fed if their singing of traditional Legion songs wasn't deemed good enough by the instructors.
After some years in the Legion he then rejoined the British Army and passed selection with the SAS. He then went on to pass other very 'specialist training' - leading to our paths crossing in 1993.
Occasionally, I still wonder to this day what I perceived initially to be this scrawny, dull man is doing now. The ultimate soldier I have ever met.
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14 Oct 2025 14:32:05
An interesting read Lego. It’s odd how the people who have done extraordinary things are often quite dull and look, at first glance, ordinary.
I have a good friend called Diane who now lives in Leamington Spa. When I first met her parents, her Mum, a lovely lady and ex Army nurse, talked me to death. Her husband, Dick, a very quiet, even taciturn, man used to absent himself and do some gardening ( they had a magnificent and huge garden). It was only when I used to impose on his solitary nature and got to chat to him that his incredible WW2 stories came out.
Joined the Leicesters as radio operator ( carrying those huge backpacks with the infantry) he was involved in France, ended up at Dunkirk, was evacuated, his ship was sunk and he made it to shore further down the coast where he was picked up by a small boat to safety. Then 8th Army in the desert rats, across to Sicily and up to Monte Casino and eventually into Rome, then sent to the Far East to fight the Japanese in Burma where he caught malaria and was invalided home ( and nursed by his future wife).
All these stories came out over a period of months over many many cups of tea.
On a lighter note I watched a documentary on Channel 4 I think entitled “ The Mets own serial killer”. I forget his name but he was a Police marksman who had shot dead 3 or 4, violent criminals in the course of several operations. He had a huge bounty on his head from the underworld.
Interviewed, he spoke very quietly with a boring delivery, wore glasses and looked the double of Sean Lock without the gags …….
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14 Oct 2025 17:18:36
Yep, watch out for those grey-men! Following on with this theme Stokey and Mossy - I never served alongside anyone from the US Delta Force. However, I have seen a photo of the guy who formed Delta Force under the guidance of the SAS. The bloke looks like he would fit in better in a library environment than on the battlefield! Never judge a book by it's cover as they say.
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