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30 Sep 2024 08:39:48
Nuno has to sort out our home form it is dire
boring, disjointed slow passing low block defending no high press devoid of any energy and passion

We should not be surrendering 65 per cent possession at home to mid table sides like Fulham

Either sort it out or be prepared for Mr M to do it for you!

01 Oct 2024 08:12:39
I agree Munmad that we weren't at our best against Fulham ( perhaps too much change in personnel and formation? ) but I don’t worry too much about the possession stats as a lot of Fulham’s was ticky tacky in their own half mate.
You have to remember that Nuno is Jose Morinho s protege and mentor and his style reflects that. The more you compress a spring the more powerful it rebounds. Mind you, Morinho had John Terry at the back and Didier Drogba up top …….

01 Oct 2024 11:34:54
Like xG, possession is irrelevant.

29 Sep 2024 00:32:23
I'm not beating around the Bush
Deadly serious
Nuno has to go.

30 Sep 2024 19:44:01
Is that bush in your garden Mr Thrower 🤣🤣🎈.

28 Sep 2024 19:34:03
Not Forest related but I really do not like Liverpool or their manager and what some of their fans stand for.

28 Sep 2024 20:19:22
Respect your opinion but I live amongst them. Apart from their perceived 'entitlement' I must admit 70% are ok. Footballing wise, very knowledgeable and they will admit defeat, when justified. No one has laid a punch on me, 27 years Forest tops, League 1, Championship and PL. I swear, our history is massively respected in Liverpool. Always remind them, only 'holders' to be knocked out in the first round. FTID.

21 Sep 2024 23:38:44
Anthony Joshua
Biggest con man boxing has ever seen always going to get beat.

28 Sep 2024 00:20:13
Not a con man just a weak sorry boxer.

28 Sep 2024 17:18:35
I've seen better punch ups at the Cooked Hat🙂.

21 Sep 2024 17:39:48
Anyway reds, got my appointment for operation on the old leg (should be legs) but they only do one at a time. Putting stents in (or balloons) i'm like there's no way that gits getting anywhere near me 🤣🤣🤣 all been a domino effect. From catching covid at Wembley. To the injections as the good yank reminds me. Ok ok i know the obvious is from smoking. But just stange reds i swear i was 100% fit and it just reigned down massively. Not obviously feeling sorry. And been off the cigs 7 month now. Just weird. Like a curse. FTID.

21 Sep 2024 18:12:33
Good luck mate. Build your strength up and take it easy. Just remember it’s lucky you aren’t a race horse they’d have shot you already 😁😁🤞🤞👍👍Seriously, all the best.

21 Sep 2024 19:16:36
Hang in there Bowie. I can relate to what you're going through mate - including the question of 'why'? Put your faith in the experts and you'll be back being 'The Daddy' of this site before you know it.

21 Sep 2024 20:23:30
Hopefully Bowie pal, the stents are a success and you can get back to getting about more.

21 Sep 2024 20:29:31
Hope everything goes well Bowie.

21 Sep 2024 21:13:43
Hahahaha bless ya stokey, cheers bud 👍.

21 Sep 2024 23:50:05
Cannot thank you all enough reds. Means a lot, just brilliant 👏.

22 Sep 2024 09:32:11
Hope the operation goes well, Bowie. Best of luck, mate. 👍👍.

22 Sep 2024 11:57:21
Ah, well done on dropping the tabs Bowie lad, that couldn't have been easy, hope you didn't have to stick your teeth on the door too many times:)
Hope the op goes well for you fella, all the best.

22 Sep 2024 16:36:00
Well done on the tabs Bowie mate, and, from the depths of my heart, wishing you well on your ops and recovery my good man.

20 Sep 2024 23:15:55
Just something I'd like to post on discussion posts - despite being at risk of sounding like Stokey in the process!

I'm reading lots of references about Muslims as being some sort of alien life-form intent on sapping from our society and, ultimately, as terrorists and murderers intent on destroying western society. Whilst I recognise there are a small minority of Muslims that are like that - from my experience the vast majority are very good people.

Most people don't realise (or prefer to forget), that both UN and subsequently NATO servicemen served in Bosnia Herzegovina in the early to mid 90's - to protect the native Bosnian Muslims from the ethnic cleansing started by the Serbs and followed by the Croats. I was one of those who served there during those awful days.

I won't go into detail about how I gained the dubious title - but over there I became known, mainly by the Croats, in their slang vocab as being 'The Muslim Lover'. They hated me.

I certainly wouldn't say that I was a 'Muslim Lover' either then or now. However, the experience over there certainly won my respect for the majority of Muslims.

Please don't tar everyone with the same brush.

21 Sep 2024 07:36:53
It not Muslims that are the problem, legless. It's the western nations that wage the war that are the problem. NATO had no reason to intervene in Bosua, Kosovo or Libya. The Bosnia intervention was because of Russia and Serbia being very close friends not the genocide. If NATO cared about genocide they would've intervened in the genocide of the South African countries. Sudan, Ivory coast to name two. If people don't like Muslims then they shouldn't like Christians or Jews as its all the same nonsensical rubbish.

21 Sep 2024 11:57:16
Legless, I fully agree with your post. One of the best gigs I ever had in the Police was 2 years as Hyson Green Community beat Officer in the early 1980s. Guided by my Muslim mate ( whom I’m still in touch with) and ditto my Sikh mate ( sadly passed about 6 months ago, heart attack) I was welcomed at the Mosque, the Sikh and Hindu Temples and, like you, I have great respect for all the ethnic minorities. I truly believe diversity is strength.
I would add the caveat that those days were no where near as edgy as now, post 9/ 11, pre Gulf War, Gaza, and your own Balkans conflict.
The big barrier to assimilation ( unlike every other ethnic group) is the extremist Muslim concept of Jihad, spreading the faith by war and the futile dream of a return to barbarism with a new Caliphate and Islamic State. If I remember rightly, 180, 000 people have arrived here illegally by boat since 2016. The vast majority young Muslim men of fighting age. Often from failed states with no great regard or affection for Western style democracy. We have no idea who they are, they have no documentation. I believe a huge proportion of them will, in time, assimilate and they and their descendants will be an asset in an aging population. But if only 5 % are wrong ‘uns” and poisoned by extremism and radicalisation that’s still 9000 potential terrorists. Hence the entirely understandable tension, antipathy and fear for the future which attachs to no other group.
Thomas Hobbes (his grave is in a village near Cromford in Derbyshire worth a pilgrimage) the great English political philosopher in his book “The Leviathan “ argues that the states first duty is to protect its citizens who lives otherwise become “violent, brutish and short”. In other words citizens surrender the right to defend themselves and live in under local warlords by delegating that responsibility to the state ( the Leviathan). Nine thousand plus sympathisers is a lot for the state to take on.

{Ed001's Note - just to point out Stokey - jihad is not war, it is holy work. The idea of it being spread by war is a corruption of the original message. A bit like Catholicism and the Crusades, completely ignoring turn the other cheek.}

21 Sep 2024 13:48:46
Good point Ed. It reminds me of the great Bob Dylan song “ With God on our Side”. Says it all really mate!

{Ed001's Note - religion is not really the problem, it is people misinterpreting it.}

21 Sep 2024 15:47:11
Perhaps Ed……it’s generally humans who bugger up a wonderful world.
I guess it’s like the Incas and Aztecs …. Behind Cortez and the conquistadors in search of gold comes the Inquisition. Just as behind the Wehrmacht comes the Gestapo mate…. Depressing isn’t it? 😔.

{Ed001's Note - very mate.}

21 Sep 2024 18:45:23
As usual Stokey, I'm afraid I don't have the intellect to fully understand your last post - but I get the gist of it!

I do agree with your 'caveat' that there has been a lot of water that has passed under the bridge since both of us served in uniform experiencing the Muslim culture. Very sad that both cultures have moved so far apart from those good old days.

A story you may appreciate (from 1993/ 4):

When I was serving in Sarajevo we organised a 5-a-side football match between us Int bods and the Sarajevo Police Force. This was played on a pitch by Zetra Stadium (where Torvill and Dean won their ice skating gold medal in the Sarajevo Olympics). The local cops absolutely destroyed us - it was more like a rugby final score!

Anyway, people went back to their respective duties and I was left with the Deputy Head of the Sarajevo Police sitting in a portacabin by the side of the pitch, having a crafty fag together. Neither of us spoke each other's language. I was about to leave, but he then pulled out a bottle of Slivovitz.

Loopy Juice - we got absolutely hammered together in that portacabin! (he was obviously a bit of a 'naughty Muslim'). The photos of our wives and kids came out and, despite speaking in our own languages, somehow we understood most of what the other said. I loved it and I think he did too. It was a 'pressure release' for both of us I think.

He then put on an old-fashioned cassette tape and played a song I had never heard before called The Ashokan Farewell. I will never be able to listen to that tune again.

I think us and the Muslims can get on so well if we both stow-away both of respective baggage/ rubbish.

23 Sep 2024 15:28:52
Legless, the Ashokan Farewell is a wonderful, haunting piece which they often play on Classic FM, my radio channel of choice. Very folksy and Gaelic sounding. I think it was the soundtrack of a film at one stage but can’t remember which one, mate.

I had a similar drinking session in the Czech Republic around the time in the early 90 s as yours in Sarajevo. One hot afternoon I went for a run in the foothills of the mountains ( Tatra) which form the border between the Czech Republic and Poland. In fact, around an hour into the run I crossed a broken down, unmanned wooden barrier on a mountain track marked “Welcome to Poland “ in various languages.

Anyway, I got hopelessly lost and entered a tiny hamlet down a dirt road, perhaps 5 or 6 houses. One had an advert outside for Budweiser etc so I went in to get a drink and ask for directions. Inside it was like somebody’s living room rather than a pub but it had a bar and optics plus a couple of pumps with around half a dozen old guys sitting around a big table.

At first they thought I was German ( Deutche? ) and were a bit cagey but when I said “English “ they couldn’t be more friendly but none of us spoken much of either language. Nevertheless the flavoured vodka came out and we had a great afternoon. At one point the “landlord” who spoke a bit of English produced a huge wooden box like a First Aid Box which contained dozens of vials filled with different coloured liquids and syringes.

It was only when my Czech hostess ( who spoke English (arrived later to collect me that he could explain that he was the defence organiser of the village in Communist days and these were the antidotes to the various poisons and gasses that we and the Americans would drop on us apparently.

They also said that they’d all enjoyed my company because the Communists had told them that the Americans were all mad and the English were arrogant. It remains as a fond though fuzzy memory …….

24 Sep 2024 19:17:01
Great post Stokey. I'll PM you about this.

24 Sep 2024 21:06:08
Pollyard, of course everything is the wests fault, we are to Blame for everything, we’re such horrible people half the world wants to move here, what garbage,

19 Sep 2024 13:25:48
After you have stopped laughing, where would the country be if Jeremy Corben became PM.
Possibly still be in the EU, not be in serious financial debt, railways nationalized, water companies not flooding rivers with sewerage. Wildlife flourishing, and many positives.
Maybe unions stronger, no Boris in parliament, and also Farage.
Ho my, no backing of war in Israel, and our standing in the world not derided.

19 Sep 2024 18:21:34
I would like to read Ff aka downthe pubs reply to that post Redsocks.
You make some valid points mate but the armed forces would be disbanded therefore we would be a target for all sorts of worldwide weirdos.

19 Sep 2024 18:41:30
We'd be a satellite-state of Russia by now Socks. Be careful what you wish for.

19 Sep 2024 19:35:03
Not wishing, just asking the question. We are still relying on reservists, relying on the new aircraft carrier with no aircraft.
Worked in several air bases in UK and they were far better equipped then as now, also in NATO base at Cottesmore. Worked in Wood bridge, Alconbury, Chicksands, Greenham Common, Lakernheath etc. I know when a country is vunerable, so I wish for the return of those, don't foreget the closure of the naval base in the Forth. those
Corbin was and is a Brexit supporter but could and would defered the vote as was every prime minister.
Do you think that 3 nuclear bombs placed in vunerable spots would be enough, maybe 🤐😨.

19 Sep 2024 19:51:08
EU is a busted flush. Look at the state of Germany. US intervention in Ukraine v Russia dispute has condemned most of Europe to high energy costs. Pray for a mild winter. 😐.

19 Sep 2024 20:36:56
Firstly Socks, it's Corbyn. The guy was of the same political-ilk as Michael Foot. Frankly, a joke. Yes, we may have had beautiful flora and fauna if Corbyn had been elected PM, but it would have been at the expense of dobbing our cap as a nation to Putin and all-out civil war in Ireland after he would have handed Ulster over to Ireland. Remember those pics of him cosying-up with the IRA leadership? I dread to think what else he would have cursed this country with.

19 Sep 2024 20:53:17
Hallelujah to that scouse, a solid EU is no more, the way things have been forecast for the UK looks like we are turning into a Zimbabwe, turn the clock back please, well one hour at the end of October.

19 Sep 2024 21:07:29
That's an easy one gazza
CORBEN? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bloke is a pratt.

19 Sep 2024 21:32:49
Thanks to Farage, Rees Mogg l, Johnson, Dyson ect. we are left highly vulnerable in an ever more dangerous Europe, notice which nation Putin mentions quite a lot.
There as always been safety in numbers but thanks to a load of right wing nutters we aren’t one of them, never. mind we can all sing God save the King, that, ll scare em.
CARLO.

19 Sep 2024 22:32:29
Your old pal Blair made a right mess last time carlo
I am not worried about Russia we stand more chance of sinking as a nation with immigration which is the biggest threat this country has ever faced
It'll be alright though cus labour will sort that out 🤣🤣.

19 Sep 2024 22:53:05
Putin hates us more than any country. The UK was at the forefront of pushing beyond all of his 'red lines'. By not reacting, Putin 'the strongman' has been left with egg on his face and will, at some stage, react harshly against the UK. I guarantee it.

In the meantime, let's all live life to the full Reds!

19 Sep 2024 23:04:13
Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, sunack, let me just think a moment or two. Yes, just thought, AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH.
Corbin, aaaaahhhhhhh, not as bad. Not a supporter of Corbin, I just asked the question, its you lot who escalated it. Just thought where we would be ad a country not being in EU.

19 Sep 2024 23:08:56
You ever watch putin when he has a meeting?
He's on his own at the end of the biggest table in the world 🤣
His enemies are within and will eventually assassinate him.

20 Sep 2024 04:29:28
Still lap dog to USA. Johnson vetoed the peace agreement and now Starmer is committing more money and arms. They want an escalation, not good.

20 Sep 2024 09:28:55
Good debate starter Redsocks. Keep em coming mate. Good replies guys.

20 Sep 2024 11:18:34
Redsocks, mate, I always ( naively) hoped that Corbyn would mature as leader and put his Marxist past behind him, perhaps becoming pragmatic. But this hope was quickly dashed as he continued to fight the old battles and couldn’t grow up ( unlike, say, Tony Blair who moved to the centre left from being a left wing firebrand in his younger days). Sadly, when student politics meet the real world it usually ends badly.
As for the EU Corbyn was and remained a Eurosceptic ( as Tony Benn and other Marxists were). Mainly because the EU s rules on state aid to major industries would have stopped his nationalisation policy and free movement would have resulted in the working classes wages being lowered due to cheap East European labour. He was at best lukewarm and cost him the Election with Boris s “ Get Brexit Done” proving to be the winning ticket.
Lastly, his Pro Palestine ( and thereby anti semetic) stance would have caused massive public order issues and division in the UK, with a dismantled Police Force ( Diane Abbott as Home Secretary in charge of the Police and Security Services anybody? ).
Investment from the USA, the EU and the Jewish entrepreneurs would have plummeted, massive debts, combined with being defenceless with nuclear weapons banned and us becoming a neutral countries without protection and easy meat for Putin. Thus at a time when neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are scrambling to get into NATO.

21 Sep 2024 17:15:04
Don’t you dare call Blair my Fu—— mate, he sent my son to Iraq front line.
CARLO.

21 Sep 2024 17:33:27
Hope to God your lad survived Carlo mate? I always think our leaders should think very very carefully before sending people off to war. Or get their little tin hats on and do it themselves. By the way what’s “FU” short for? Genuine question. Unless it’s a rude swear word I initially thought “Fuhrer”….

22 Sep 2024 17:36:02
If politicians children, grandchildren were front line there, d be far less wars.
Yes my son came back but many didn’t and in my book Blair (or was it Cherie ) and Bush lit the fire that now burns in the Middle East and their off spray definitely Didn’t go.

Look how Thatcher shed her only ever tears when Sir Mark got lost but had no problem starting a war to keeping a useless lump of rock 8000 miles away and killing hundreds of young men on both sides.
The money spent on it since is unaccountable and for what.
CARLO.