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31 Jan 2025 19:55:25
I'm hearing rumours we've re signed Sam Surridge? Anybody else heard this or is it a windup?
I thought he did well for us by the way.
1.) 01 Feb 2025 01:26:44
Right now I'd take him over Taiwo and if Everton are serious about taking him off us its got to be win win.
23 May 2024 17:14:18
There's talk linking us with De Zerbi. So long as it's not his much less successful Championship brother De Derbi. ????.
14 Jan 2024 21:25:35
Paul Taylor of the Athletic says we are to be informed we are in breach of FFP tomorrow. He's not usually wrong. ???.
1.) 14 Jan 2024 22:12:34
50 quid fine ?.
2.) 15 Jan 2024 12:12:55
Wrist slap, after appeal. ?.
3.) 15 Jan 2024 12:23:23
I d add quite a few noughts to that Skegs if I were you mate! And that’s if we are lucky. It’s loss of points that will kill us…….
4.) 16 Jan 2024 01:50:21
“The name of the club doesn't matter. Every club should be treated equally under the rules set out.
“But the elephant in the room isn't being addressed. 115 charges, zero action. Why? ”.
5.) 16 Jan 2024 09:32:22
There's a cult developing In this fanbase. Some fans am have fallen for the clueless and wreckless owners nonesense about ambition while breaking rules he voted to make last year at the long term expenses of the club. Thankgod for ffp to protect the long term future of clubs from bad ownership. Show some real ambition Instead of being nodding dogs to mariankiss, he sells anyone good buys a team for the money he gets and says that ambition, the ground was announced five years ago nothing, we are a laughing stock under him. Get these out while we're prem and hope for proper owners from USA or suadi.
6.) 16 Jan 2024 18:27:39
My nonsense-meter is twitching!
Owners take a calculated risk to stay in the Prem. Get accused of being wreckless when it works. Fans like being in the Prem are called members of a cult.
The solution: Get owners like the ones at Man United (Glazers? ) or Man city (109 charges and run a country where women celebrate being ALLOWED to drive in 2018),
Forstphil, what team do you support?
7.) 16 Jan 2024 22:23:12
Forestphil1234 - what a load of tosh!
21 Dec 2023 11:18:06
I don't usually pay much credence to the comments of Jamie Carragher aka Spit the Punk Dog, but the NEP s reported conversation between him and SC is very interesting and worth a read. It's a good summation of SCs "nightmare"situation under Marinkinakos ( and presumably that situation will be continued under Nunez).
It would appear that SC had no idea of what players ( and in what numbers) would be arriving at the club, despite his oft repeated mantra that he, the owner and the recruitment team were all supposedly "reading off the same page"?
It might be a rare glimpse behind the scenes at our beloved club before the media gag is imposed as part of the terms of SCs payoff.
1.) 21 Dec 2023 12:21:52
Tough to see SC go and we have to remain positive about Nuno. Did a great job with Wolves so just got to see how the City ground welcomes him saturday.
Transfers wise, realistically, we sell McKenna and Worrall unless they are given a chance by Nuno. I think we cancel the loans for Montiel, Tavares, santos and origi - they have offered us nothing all season.
Maybe sell Boly as he hates Nuno from their time at wolves and maybe sell Felipe due to injuries (hard for me to say this) but he's a strong leader in the group.
We sign Nino from Fluminense (centre half linked with) and get Omobamidele involved more with 1st team squad
The midfield is sound and we cover - Yates and Mangala start.
We buy another winger who has PL experience to compete with Hudson-Odoi and Elanga (Sancho on loan but doubt that will happen! ) and then we buy a striker. Maybe try and get the lad Serhou Guirassy from Stuttgart for 17.5m release clause but he may go elsewhere. Keep Wood as a last minute backup ready for Awoniyi.
2.) 21 Dec 2023 14:12:18
I don't get why we keep going on about players coming in are not the managers choice, it been like that for years now thier is not one manager out their that has control over the players that come in.
A manager years ago would go and scout the player themselves and go back to the owner or chairman and say who they wanted, however we don't have managers anymore they are HEAD COACH who are just told to train the players and its done to the director or football who we bring in, and it's also a lot to do with agents who in my opinion have spoilt the game.
3.) 21 Dec 2023 15:14:21
Lower BC, that’s why we willl never attract any great coaches. Can you imagine Klopp, Pep or Arteta putting up with the interference like SC has had to? Hence, the merry go round of new appointments.
4.) 21 Dec 2023 18:12:51
Do you really think they have that much say on who comes in aswell, good example kelvin Philips great prospect went to man city and has sat on the bench, he was not peps choice of player and it shows pep didn't want him, arteta never wanted ramesdale his first choice was alway raya.
We won't attract no big coach at the moment due to not finishing high enough in the league and no European football.
Who is a top class coach you would like to see though being our head coach, for me I would like Marco rose.
{Ed001's Note - neither of those examples are true, both Pep and Arteta have full control of recruitment.}
5.) 21 Dec 2023 19:40:32
Thought so Ed1. What’s the recruitment agreement at Liverpool with Klopp?
{Ed001's Note - he has final say.}
14 Mar 2023 18:08:56
Dennis also I guess before Ayew. Though, as I say, none of those replacements have pulled any trees up this season . ?.
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21 Mar 2026 18:50:31
I'd take a draw tomorrow with the recovery time advantage Spurs have over us. The first goal will set the tone and be vital in deciding it imo.
1.) 21 Mar 2026 19:13:52
Stokey, they went virtually full strength Wednesday, we managed our so-called big players. I don't think they have any advantage on that score. A draw wouldn't be a disaster, but if we could get an early goal, that would sort the men from the boys in their team.
2.) 21 Mar 2026 19:30:57
We won't get anything tomorrow, dark arts will play its hand, and, to be honest, Spurs at their park are not those from Denmark, who we should have beaten inside 90mins had the coach held his nerve.
I for one am looking forward to the Championship, I've always fought with Two hands, not with one strapped behind my back. The Premier League is corrupted, you know it, we all know it.
3.) 21 Mar 2026 19:37:34
Red Vale, I don't think for a minute we'll get any favours from the officials or VAR, but Spurs are under so much pressure at home, an early goal for us would turn that stadium toxic. We'll see.
20 Mar 2026 11:39:21
I hope nobody was stupid enough to write us off……
Good and bad.
The Good is obvious…. Great and thoroughly committed performance by the fringe players and subs, against a good, physical and well organised team. Showed they wanted to play for VP and right a few wrongs. Special shout out to McAteer, ran the show for an hour. Also young Abbott looked steady and composed, both playing in their natural positions. Yates was Man of the Match for me. Stood up to some aggressive play and thrived under a ref who was prepared not to be too fussy. A real toe to toe performance and crowned it with a superb goal. Even the much maligned Lucca did well. Ok, he’s no Stan Collymore.
He’s not even a Jason Lee. But he put a shift in and made a nuisance of himself. Credit where it’s due. It’s given VP sonething to think about. Raises morale and lays down a marker going forward hopefully.
The bad is that I thought VP could have waited for another 15 mins before changing things. We looked comfortable and less so when the big guns came on. Perhaps the science and running stats told him differently but sometimes you have to go with instinct. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
I said on here before kickoff that, regardless of the outcome, we don’t want extra time. So it’s definitely advantage Spurs on Sunday.
Let’s hope we picked up no injuries.
1.) 20 Mar 2026 12:52:19
Spot on Stokey, at two up we looked comfortable and I could see another goal coming. Didn't think the changes were necessary, still, what do I know. Good game though, and deserved to win. Just hope they can carry the energy through the Sunday game.
19 Mar 2026 17:02:55
Whichever way it goes tonight we don't want any injuries or extra time. Coyr! ???.
1.) 19 Mar 2026 17:09:49
Unless ots Morato. ??
2.) 19 Mar 2026 17:16:36
I hope we win by some miracle. Just to shut these commentators and pundits up that are writing us off.
3.) 19 Mar 2026 17:46:24
Their keeper had an excellent game last week. He will be tough to break down, and I hope we don't concede early and we just go for it.
Come on Forest. Big chance for Yates starting tonight; he never lets us down.
Just hope I'm not watching it through me fingers.
18 Mar 2026 17:31:39
Nico not Nicko de Marco! ?.
18 Mar 2026 16:22:00
Adverse reaction to the scurrilous Chelsea decision is bubbling away nicely .
Nicko de Marco, who represented us ( and Leicester) at our FFP hearing has gone public and asked for "consistency" in punishments. Without mentioning Chelsea or any other club, using this word is as close as a lawyer can come within the libel and defamation laws to saying "bent".
Likewise, Simon Leaf, another legal expert in this field, writing in the Mail has called it " the deal of the decade " for Chelsea.
Also, an unnamed " senior Man United source"has expressed his concern and the effects of the fraudulent acts on their prospects ( at the time in the 2010s ) of success.
The Premier League Senior Executives have a meeting tomorrow ( Thursday) which, though routine, may well be used to express comment on the verdict. I'm sure Everton and us will have something to say, especially with the Man City verdict pending ( bearing in mind they have denied any offences and dragged their heels and not co operated throughout).
I'm sure the Mr Masters who's leading the Prem in this farce will stress that the panel was independent. But his fear will be a Labour Government Sports Minister stepping in to address the imbalance between, firstly the Prem and the other English Leagues and secondly the elite group within the Premiership itself. With a 174 seat majority and work in progress legislation could well follow.
Anyway, watch this space .
By the way Ed 1, May I utilise your wide ranging expertise and knowledge on FFP to ask if the standard of proof is balance of probability as in civil cases ( ie 51 v 49 per cent) or beyond reasonable doubt, as in criminal cases ie 99%?
{Ed001's Note - balance of probability. It is classed as a civil case.}
1.) 18 Mar 2026 18:19:35
Thanks Ed. I thought it would be in the circumstances mate ??
2.) 18 Mar 2026 19:54:41
Another article on the BBC by Sam Drury interviewing former Chelsea executive Christian Purslow, who states the penalty was "too lenient" and "very generous." Plus, he expresses sympathy for the points deductions for us and Everton. Worth a read.
As I said, this one is bubbling away nicely...
3.) 19 Mar 2026 08:40:14
Matthew Sayed nails it in The Times today.
17 Mar 2026 09:16:20
Thanks Stevie, mate. I might, on occasion, respectfully disagree with you on here, but I won't ever be taking the p'ss.
I know what you mean about the RUC. I have an Ulster mate called Nev from my Police days who joined Notts instead of the RUC because, as he said, when you join the Police in NI then your whole family joins, and he didn't want that.
At Christmas he still sends cards with the message "Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and a Thumping 12th (a reference to the Battle of the Boyne, I believe)". ?
But agreed, no more "All Our Yesterdays"!
16 Mar 2026 21:42:09
Stevie, mate, I can only say that the magnificent 7 on my shift were excellent policemen. I should also have mentioned that my Sergeant during the Miners' Strike was an ex Royal Marine, a veteran of Aden and a few other operations. He was a brilliant Sgt but not averse to a few, shall we say, skulduggery. He'd been a miner too (can't remember whether before or after his RM stint, probably before). I remember him chatting in a very friendly manner to an NUM photographer who'd been filming and taking pictures of us during the shift changes when it all kicked off. Having gained the bloke's confidence he asked to have a look at his kit then accidentally and on purpose "dropped" it heavily on the floor, smashing it to pieces.
He was quite a reserved bloke but after a few months living together in 20 hour shifts in a van he opened up and brought certain memorabilia to show us, including nicked IRA items from funerals obtained during house searches and about a dozen bodies of the Queen's enemies in the Middle East being dumped into a well. He always said there were certain parts of the world where he could never go on holiday. But he was a good leader, and I learnt a lot from him. He went on to become a very good senior detective.
I know what you mean, "across the water", but the Army were thrown into a situation they weren't trained for, in aid of the outgunned Police. Deeply unfortunate and tragic in terms of loss of life.
16 Mar 2026 12:51:54
Thank you for your kind words, Stevie and Lego, much appreciated.
It could have easily been the case that I'd opted for a military career when I was 18 and then 21. I explored that possibility and went for careers interviews with the armed forces and Police. But I was clearly being pushed towards Officer training by the former in view of my A levels then degree ( I'm not bragging or being arrogant, just saying how it was). I didn't fancy that at the time as I got the impression ( IF i'd got through the training) that I'd be stuck on a base in northern Germany, in the equivalent of a Gentlemen's club of "Ruperts" bored out of my head with the odd tour of North Ireland.Likewise the RAF and the Navy were subject of a shrunken Empire with fewer and fewer ships and nothing East of Aden.
No one ( particularly successive British Governments) could have foreseen the Falklands. Even back then the RN had more Admirals than ships. It was heading to where it is now, moored up in UK ports to save money and for maintenance. As per the HMS Dragon disgrace. We only have around 23 ships and subs on total. So I went for the daily adventures of a Police Career. Which I enjoyed thoroughly.
The road not taken eh? .
It's always amazes me that one takes life changing decisions when one is of an age where you know Jack ?about the world. But, here we are .
14 Mar 2026 10:39:44
Lego and Stevie
You will both recall that I stopped my comments on Trump on here out of respect for Mrs Bowie, "the yank", who is herself both a veteran and DT supporter, so I’m being consistent at least.
I’ll leave you two to it for the reason I gave earlier, my friends.
I’m reminded of this bit of Wilfred Owens poem "Apologia Pro Poemate Meo" (An Apology for my Poetry)....
"I have made fellowships
Untold of happy lovers in old song.
For love is not the binding of fair lips
With the soft silk of eyes that look and long,
But Joy, whose ribbon slips__
But wound with wars hard wire
Whose stakes are strong;
Bound with the bandage of the arm that drips;
Knit in the welding of the rifle thong.
Nevertheless, except you share
With them in Hell the sorrowful dark of Hell,
Whose world is but the trembling of a flare,
And Heaven but as the highway for a shell,
You shall not hear their mirth;
You shall not come to think them well content
By any jest of mine.
These men are worth
Your tears; You are not worth their merriment".
Owen was a lieutenant in the Manchesters, killed by German artillery exactly a week before the Armistice whilst leading his platoon across a canal in France. His mother in his home town of Oswestry received the dreaded telegram on the same day as the bells were ringing out to celebrate Peace and Victory.
A gay man, he could have stayed in Craiglockhart, a hospital in Scotland for men suffering from shell shock (PTSD as it is known now) until the end of the War, but chose to go back to his unit in the trenches.
As I say, I’m not worthy to banter or jibe with those who have served their country....
I must say the Welsh lad took a lot of stick but gave as good as he got. I remember that when he mentioned that the Welsh Guards had escorted Princess Di’s funeral through London the Falklands vets (Para and Marine) both remarked that it was the furthest he'd even seen them march.....
13 Mar 2026 13:11:24
I'll leave the p'ss taking to you Lego mate, as a fellow Brother in Arns! As a civvy, I don't feel I've earned the right.
I may have mentioned before that 7 of my 12-person shift I had the pleasure of supervising at Central were ex-military (Marine, Para, Forester, Submariner, RMP, Navy Radio Operator and Welsh Guardsman).
They all remorselessly took the mick out of each other. Some of it was quite near the knuckle, but I made a point of staying out of it...
20 Mar 2026 13:31:58
I fear last night could be a Pyrrhic victory, Ripley, mate, glorious though it was...
20 Mar 2026 11:08:32
Welcome back, DTP. I've missed our frank exchanges of views. ?
19 Mar 2026 17:00:52
Well, it looks like I got 90 per cent of the team selection right! Hey Munmad, mate, gissa job. ???
19 Mar 2026 16:25:35
Nuno, mate, I think VP's record this season has been taken out of context and skewed statistically.
He's had previous success with Porto and Olympiakos, and last season took Wolves from out of the bottom 3 and finished comfortably in the top half of the Premiership.
This season their owners, who sound about as mad as ours, sold his best players from under his feet (Cunha to Man Utd £63 million, Rayan to Man City £24 million and Fabio Silva to a German club for a similar amount) without adequate replacements.
I think their upturn in form under Rob Edwards has come about because they've got rid of disruptive players such as Strand Larson, and the pressure is off because they are building for next season in the Championship.
To put it in perspective, they have to win 4 out of their last 7 games to even have a minimum chance of staying up.
Obviously, VP doesn't have the record of a Pep or Arteta, but despite the squad disruption managerially, lack of pre season, and the general crock of ? he's inherited, he is a good manager and I believe he will keep us up.
19 Mar 2026 13:37:51
This is an excellent piece which is very applicable to us at Forest with our frequent mid season changes of coach this season. Great post and well worth a read. ??????