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23 May 2024 17:14:18
There's talk linking us with De Zerbi. So long as it's not his much less successful Championship brother De Derbi. ????.
14 Jan 2024 21:25:35
Paul Taylor of the Athletic says we are to be informed we are in breach of FFP tomorrow. He's not usually wrong. ???.
1.) 14 Jan 2024 22:12:34
50 quid fine ?.
2.) 15 Jan 2024 12:12:55
Wrist slap, after appeal. ?.
3.) 15 Jan 2024 12:23:23
I d add quite a few noughts to that Skegs if I were you mate! And that’s if we are lucky. It’s loss of points that will kill us…….
4.) 16 Jan 2024 01:50:21
“The name of the club doesn't matter. Every club should be treated equally under the rules set out.
“But the elephant in the room isn't being addressed. 115 charges, zero action. Why? ”.
5.) 16 Jan 2024 09:32:22
There's a cult developing In this fanbase. Some fans am have fallen for the clueless and wreckless owners nonesense about ambition while breaking rules he voted to make last year at the long term expenses of the club. Thankgod for ffp to protect the long term future of clubs from bad ownership. Show some real ambition Instead of being nodding dogs to mariankiss, he sells anyone good buys a team for the money he gets and says that ambition, the ground was announced five years ago nothing, we are a laughing stock under him. Get these out while we're prem and hope for proper owners from USA or suadi.
6.) 16 Jan 2024 18:27:39
My nonsense-meter is twitching!
Owners take a calculated risk to stay in the Prem. Get accused of being wreckless when it works. Fans like being in the Prem are called members of a cult.
The solution: Get owners like the ones at Man United (Glazers? ) or Man city (109 charges and run a country where women celebrate being ALLOWED to drive in 2018),
Forstphil, what team do you support?
7.) 16 Jan 2024 22:23:12
Forestphil1234 - what a load of tosh!
21 Dec 2023 11:18:06
I don't usually pay much credence to the comments of Jamie Carragher aka Spit the Punk Dog, but the NEP s reported conversation between him and SC is very interesting and worth a read. It's a good summation of SCs "nightmare"situation under Marinkinakos ( and presumably that situation will be continued under Nunez).
It would appear that SC had no idea of what players ( and in what numbers) would be arriving at the club, despite his oft repeated mantra that he, the owner and the recruitment team were all supposedly "reading off the same page"?
It might be a rare glimpse behind the scenes at our beloved club before the media gag is imposed as part of the terms of SCs payoff.
1.) 21 Dec 2023 12:21:52
Tough to see SC go and we have to remain positive about Nuno. Did a great job with Wolves so just got to see how the City ground welcomes him saturday.
Transfers wise, realistically, we sell McKenna and Worrall unless they are given a chance by Nuno. I think we cancel the loans for Montiel, Tavares, santos and origi - they have offered us nothing all season.
Maybe sell Boly as he hates Nuno from their time at wolves and maybe sell Felipe due to injuries (hard for me to say this) but he's a strong leader in the group.
We sign Nino from Fluminense (centre half linked with) and get Omobamidele involved more with 1st team squad
The midfield is sound and we cover - Yates and Mangala start.
We buy another winger who has PL experience to compete with Hudson-Odoi and Elanga (Sancho on loan but doubt that will happen! ) and then we buy a striker. Maybe try and get the lad Serhou Guirassy from Stuttgart for 17.5m release clause but he may go elsewhere. Keep Wood as a last minute backup ready for Awoniyi.
2.) 21 Dec 2023 14:12:18
I don't get why we keep going on about players coming in are not the managers choice, it been like that for years now thier is not one manager out their that has control over the players that come in.
A manager years ago would go and scout the player themselves and go back to the owner or chairman and say who they wanted, however we don't have managers anymore they are HEAD COACH who are just told to train the players and its done to the director or football who we bring in, and it's also a lot to do with agents who in my opinion have spoilt the game.
3.) 21 Dec 2023 15:14:21
Lower BC, that’s why we willl never attract any great coaches. Can you imagine Klopp, Pep or Arteta putting up with the interference like SC has had to? Hence, the merry go round of new appointments.
4.) 21 Dec 2023 18:12:51
Do you really think they have that much say on who comes in aswell, good example kelvin Philips great prospect went to man city and has sat on the bench, he was not peps choice of player and it shows pep didn't want him, arteta never wanted ramesdale his first choice was alway raya.
We won't attract no big coach at the moment due to not finishing high enough in the league and no European football.
Who is a top class coach you would like to see though being our head coach, for me I would like Marco rose.
{Ed001's Note - neither of those examples are true, both Pep and Arteta have full control of recruitment.}
5.) 21 Dec 2023 19:40:32
Thought so Ed1. What’s the recruitment agreement at Liverpool with Klopp?
{Ed001's Note - he has final say.}
14 Mar 2023 18:08:56
Dennis also I guess before Ayew. Though, as I say, none of those replacements have pulled any trees up this season . ?.
13 Mar 2023 20:49:49
I have been trying in my own mind to list the players in the squad who, if all fully fit, would form the spine of the team and are essential and nailed on for the best starting 11. I've come up with Navas/ Hendo, Aurier (? ) Felipe, Boly, Lodi, Yates, MGW, Anoniyi and Johnno. So counting the goalkeepers as one because they are equally good imo, of those 9, Boly, Anoniyi and probably Johnno are unavailable ie a third of the first choice players. Anybody disagree with that list and assessment?
1.) 14 Mar 2023 17:07:49
Just 2 to find for midfield then Stokey. Which is a big talking point atm, I'd like at least one of the Brazilians in there.
2.) 14 Mar 2023 18:06:31
MV mate, I’d probably go with a Christmas tree 4321 with the players available. So same back 5 as per last game ( can’t see SC risking Niakhate for Worrall to start), then Yates, Shelvey and Danilo, the MGW and Scarpa just behind Surridge. If Johnno is available, then he replaces Scarpa at least to start. Depends on his fitness state. Still leaves Williams and Niakhate defensive cover, Colback Freuler in midfield, and Ayew, Lingard etc. As you can see, beyond the core players, we are very thin on the ground in terms of quality.
3.) 14 Mar 2023 19:08:46
It’s a right mess Stokey. Along with the injuries to decent players we only have dross to replace them. Things ain’t working, we are slipping nearer the relegation places but “in Cooper we trust” refuses to change formation or playing staff. Leaving creative match winners like Scarpa and Surridge benched or not even in the squad. And I’m not having that tripe about Scarpa not being ready yet, he didn’t win the golden ball in the top league in Brazil for being “not ready”. But keep on picking the same crap with the same formation, park the bus but still leak goals and see where that gets us. But my guess is that Eeyore, Lingard and Freuler will start against the Toon.
4.) 15 Mar 2023 09:57:00
We now know why Scarpa hasn't been in the squad. He's struggling to afford a new head band atm.
5.) 27 Mar 2023 05:43:23
Probably leaves him out because he doesn't pass backwards enough can't have anyone attacking just don't suit forest style of play lol.
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21 Jan 2025 16:01:17
Hey you lot, what's happened to my worldly wise old friend Bowie? Not heard from him for a while. Am I missing something. I'm certainly missing him. U ok Bowie mate? ?.
1.) 21 Jan 2025 18:19:08
He's at home crying and chucking is dummy about because he misses his best pals dtp and Stevie. ??.
2.) 21 Jan 2025 18:52:49
I know Stokey, hope he comes back soon.
3.) 21 Jan 2025 18:54:32
He sulking Stokie. Time of the month ?? ?.
20 Jan 2025 20:33:56
Anthony Taylor always reminds me of the character "Nogood Boyo" in Dylan Thomas's brilliant "Under Milk Wood"
"I want to be good, but nobody let's me".
????.
1.) 20 Jan 2025 21:26:30
He loves the attention mate same as Oliver they both virtually untouchable re the PGMOL, they seen as top boys so who will challenge them
On a lighter note, got late tickets Bournemouth away!
2.) 21 Jan 2025 16:02:27
Another coincidence Stokey: Guess what: I played Nogood Boyo during A level in a staged reading. I tried to give it some authenticity by smoking which didn't go down with some folk too well!
A.T. is having issues? (maybe)
3.) 21 Jan 2025 18:27:50
Wonderful Norfolk! I love the recording of it narrated by Richard Burton and I stayed a few doors up from Captain Cats House in Pembroke Old Town where they filmed the on screen version starring Burton, Elizabeth Taylor, Peter O Toole, Ruth Madoc and all the Welsh greats. i'm a bit obsessed with it and I’ve also got a signed framed poster from the 1960s Sadlers Wells production starring Windsor Davies.
When my wife and I are anywhere near Larne we make a point of putting flowers on the side by side graves of Dylan and Caitlin on the hillside above Browns pub.
A genius, undone by drink who raged against the dying of the light ….
4.) 21 Jan 2025 18:40:39
Hey, Norfolk, I’m sure your version was just as good mate. Don’t give out the answer to this Dylan Thomas related quiz question but does anybody know how where he got the name of his fictional Welsh town Llareggub from? ???.
5.) 21 Jan 2025 20:28:35
Wow! Fantastic info Stokey. Great to read for sure, but you have to listen, it takes you! Maybe Anthony should sit in a dark corner and listen to Burton's voice;confront a few demons.
20 Jan 2025 19:14:31
Murillo agrees new contract until 2029. Happy Days ???????????.
1.) 20 Jan 2025 20:40:09
Brilliant news isn't it mate?
Fantastic!
2.) 20 Jan 2025 21:43:35
Excellent news. Just hope he can dab in and sign it.
3.) 21 Jan 2025 17:33:06
You must be tuned in Stokey! 'Happy Days' by Samuel Beckett was a play I worked on a lot. I won't annoy readers with details, but a quote Forest fans will love, " Oh this has been a happy day- after all. so far. " (Did Mr Taylor spoil our Sunday? )
4.) 21 Jan 2025 18:46:21
He nearly did Norfolk! He’d be an ideal candidate for Krapp in his last tape and I’m not sure the Waiting for Godot took as long as the VAR check! ?????.
20 Jan 2025 18:22:25
Can't add much to the excellent posts on here already regarding Sundays game. Munmad and Redstripe you both called it right pre game about the baleful influence Taylor and Pugh would have on Forests chances. I thought we d would have some trouble coming our way when he only gave a yellow to their player on the half hour mark rather than a straight red for his shoulder to head contact on MGW. Ironically it would definately have been a red in either Rugby code.
I thought half time, 3 nil up, here's a chance to improve our goal difference but enter the usual suspects.
It's hard to tell if do take their foot off the gas because they are coached to sit deep and spring the fast counter. Especially with Saints having to attack. I thought with our 2 extra days recovery and their 2 days travelling to Manchester and Nottingham they would tire and we would cash in. But dubious reffing gave them a lifeline ( and 13 extra minutes).
Credit to Nuno, he was very polite and restrained about it afterwards. I'm not sure if he would have contained it if Aina hadn't come to the rescue near the end (again).
I love Murillos attitude and commitment ( and Brazilian flair) especially at the end of extra time when we were under the cosh and couldn't get out of our half and he went on that run.
He reminded me of Marshall Ferdinand Froch at the Battle of the Marne in 1914. " My left is over run, my centre is yielding, I'm surrounded. Situation excellent, I'm going to attack" Just a brilliant and unorthodox footballer.
1.) 20 Jan 2025 23:08:04
Great post?.
16 Jan 2025 14:12:51
On the topic of getting inside football managers heads, particularly in relation to Arne Slot and us. I remember years ago at a pre match press conference Jose Morinho ( Nunos mentor) before a game against a serious rival ( Champions League but can't remember against who) telling the press what the opposing coaches team, tactics and formation would be. And he was right and won the game.
I'm not sure Slot is in the same league as Jose. He came out with twaddle but revealed a sizeable obsession with us. The " money talks idea clearly some sort of a windup. Clearly Liverpool s squad is many times the value of ours. Our entire back 5 cost under £50m whereas Virgil van Dijk cost £75 m on his own. Also, we clearly had to upgrade the team from Championship to Premier with less leeway money wise in the first season. Nuno easily countered by saying " Money doesn't play football, people do".
Likewise his tactical appreciation of Forest which is easy to describe to the Media, less easy to counter. I think it made Liverpool anxious as they are expected to dominate games and over run perceived lower opposition. Forest don't mind being out of possession for two thirds or more of the game.
I'd be interested to hear our views and particularly yours Ed 1. Is Slot a mind gamer?
Clearly it didn't work because we took 4 points out of 6 from you.
1.) 16 Jan 2025 15:08:50
He also said that his team had "Dominated the entire match for 97 mins. "
Utter twaddle!
2.) 16 Jan 2025 15:19:54
Great post Stokey. Remember when Slot, (one syllable names for Liverpool managers now. ), said "compliments to Nottingham they are the only ones who we lost to. ), that was becuase Forest had stayed in the top 5 for a while and he was inferring that to lose to Forest was sort of ok because they had beaten many other teams. After Anfield, Allison and Slot wre dismissive of Forest and our play, it was sour grapes. It is all about Hegemomy Stokey-these 'top' clubs want to maintain their alleged superiority and keep us others in our place. Needs watching this chap!
3.) 16 Jan 2025 16:09:50
Huge difference between Slot and Nuno. Slot inherited a title contender and winning team, Nuno didn't. However Slot is similar to his predecessor Klopp in that he speaks a load of garbage and is equally unsporting.
How would Slot compare to Nuno if he came into the premier league and took over ( for example ) Ipswich or Everton and not Liverpool?
The system we play takes some getting used to as a fan but figure it out and every week the opposition will have more of the ball, they will have more shots and will claim they were the better team and unlucky to "lose" never once acknowledging that Forest allowed all of those things to happen. All of those boxers who lost to Mohammed Ali were apparently better than him too. rope a dope.
4.) 16 Jan 2025 17:13:41
Slot can say what he likes we've taken 4 points off them that will stick in their craw and we earned them, and unless we draw them in the cup that's that sorry we bettered them live with it ????.
5.) 16 Jan 2025 17:54:07
Think the cold got to his brain, needs to put a hat on, also I couldn’t see because the light kept bouncing off it in to my eyes!
☹️???????
CARLO.
6.) 17 Jan 2025 09:50:27
Ed1 is Slot a wind up merchant like Morinho or a gentlemen coach like, say, Roy Hodgson?
{Ed001's Note - he is not a wind up merchant no. He tends to speak his mind.}
7.) 17 Jan 2025 13:17:11
Thanks Ed. He always seemed to come across and a thoughtful and reasonable coach in previous pre and post match interviews mate. However, his remarks on Forests tactical and financial approach seemed condescending and disingenuous. It seemed to rankle that another team had had the temerity to take 3 points at Anfield. Perhaps his comments were taken out of context. Or, as a serial winner, he was thinking out loud for answers.?
{Ed001's Note - I think it is more that he is talking in his second language, so you have to give a bit of leeway.}
8.) 17 Jan 2025 13:57:14
Ed his English is better than mine mate! But I talk your point ????.
{Ed001's Note - you talk my point? I think we all agree you talk anyone's point...}
9.) 17 Jan 2025 22:16:40
Ed, I meant “take” not “talk”. I told you Arnes use of English was better than mine mate! ????.
{Ed001's Note - he is certainly more concise.}
30 Dec 2024 13:07:32
Good post Targa, though of course character and personality are inportant as well as football skill. We don t want any big time Charlies in our well motivated, tight knit squad. It only takes one bad apple…. but at the end of the day it’s a business and we trust our excellent recruitment team to do a job mate.
30 Dec 2024 13:04:24
I hope you are right Scouse mate. I fear that we might struggle with our small squad of genuine quality players if we get a few injuries or suspensions, particularly key players like MGW, Woody, Mikenkovic and ( i'm keeping my fingers crossed) Murillo. I hope I’m wrong though….
27 Aug 2024 08:54:50
It’s a classic Mexican standoff imo……??.
22 Jul 2024 09:32:41
Thank God for that…. ??????.
02 Jul 2024 15:48:47
Niakhate has definitely gone through and Mangelas transfer clause has been activated and will be confirmed on his imminent return from the Euros after Belgiums defeat by France mate. Plus the voyage of Odysseus continues with his next adventure in Newcastle …….
Alls well! ??
Plus I think young Anderson will be a big hit at the WFCG I predict. I also like the return to Dane Murphy’s strategy of buying young players with a big sell on value.
I’m reluctant to say this too early friends but I see a glimmer of optimism and common sense creeping into our transfer policy!
21 Jan 2025 22:32:26
Mate, I made the same typo! It was Foch not Froch! ??.
21 Jan 2025 22:29:30
And he was a champion boxer from Nottingham as well mate in his spare time……. ??????.
21 Jan 2025 19:30:52
Sounds like a plan Balloons! ??.
21 Jan 2025 19:23:17
A couple of Putins oligarchs bailed Trump out when his Florida chain of luxury hotels with golf courses went belly up Legolas mate. A debt that was never repaid financially. The oligarchs even hired the top floor suites to keep an eye on the gambling, prostitution and other shenanigans.
I’m sure there will be some footage, golden shower or not mate…….
21 Jan 2025 18:46:21
He nearly did Norfolk! He’d be an ideal candidate for Krapp in his last tape and I’m not sure the Waiting for Godot took as long as the VAR check! ?????.