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14 Jan 2024 21:25:35
Paul Taylor of the Athletic says we are to be informed we are in breach of FFP tomorrow. He's not usually wrong. ???.

StokeyRed

1.) 14 Jan 2024 22:12:34
50 quid fine ?.


2.) 15 Jan 2024 12:12:55
Wrist slap, after appeal. ?.


3.) 15 Jan 2024 12:23:23
I d add quite a few noughts to that Skegs if I were you mate! And that’s if we are lucky. It’s loss of points that will kill us…….


4.) 16 Jan 2024 01:50:21
“The name of the club doesn't matter. Every club should be treated equally under the rules set out.

“But the elephant in the room isn't being addressed. 115 charges, zero action. Why? ”.


5.) 16 Jan 2024 09:32:22
There's a cult developing In this fanbase. Some fans am have fallen for the clueless and wreckless owners nonesense about ambition while breaking rules he voted to make last year at the long term expenses of the club. Thankgod for ffp to protect the long term future of clubs from bad ownership. Show some real ambition Instead of being nodding dogs to mariankiss, he sells anyone good buys a team for the money he gets and says that ambition, the ground was announced five years ago nothing, we are a laughing stock under him. Get these out while we're prem and hope for proper owners from USA or suadi.


6.) 16 Jan 2024 18:27:39
My nonsense-meter is twitching!

Owners take a calculated risk to stay in the Prem. Get accused of being wreckless when it works. Fans like being in the Prem are called members of a cult.

The solution: Get owners like the ones at Man United (Glazers? ) or Man city (109 charges and run a country where women celebrate being ALLOWED to drive in 2018),

Forstphil, what team do you support?


7.) 16 Jan 2024 22:23:12
Forestphil1234 - what a load of tosh!


 

 

21 Dec 2023 11:18:06
I don't usually pay much credence to the comments of Jamie Carragher aka Spit the Punk Dog, but the NEP s reported conversation between him and SC is very interesting and worth a read. It's a good summation of SCs "nightmare"situation under Marinkinakos ( and presumably that situation will be continued under Nunez).
It would appear that SC had no idea of what players ( and in what numbers) would be arriving at the club, despite his oft repeated mantra that he, the owner and the recruitment team were all supposedly "reading off the same page"?
It might be a rare glimpse behind the scenes at our beloved club before the media gag is imposed as part of the terms of SCs payoff.

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1.) 21 Dec 2023 12:21:52
Tough to see SC go and we have to remain positive about Nuno. Did a great job with Wolves so just got to see how the City ground welcomes him saturday.

Transfers wise, realistically, we sell McKenna and Worrall unless they are given a chance by Nuno. I think we cancel the loans for Montiel, Tavares, santos and origi - they have offered us nothing all season.

Maybe sell Boly as he hates Nuno from their time at wolves and maybe sell Felipe due to injuries (hard for me to say this) but he's a strong leader in the group.

We sign Nino from Fluminense (centre half linked with) and get Omobamidele involved more with 1st team squad

The midfield is sound and we cover - Yates and Mangala start.

We buy another winger who has PL experience to compete with Hudson-Odoi and Elanga (Sancho on loan but doubt that will happen! ) and then we buy a striker. Maybe try and get the lad Serhou Guirassy from Stuttgart for 17.5m release clause but he may go elsewhere. Keep Wood as a last minute backup ready for Awoniyi.


2.) 21 Dec 2023 14:12:18
I don't get why we keep going on about players coming in are not the managers choice, it been like that for years now thier is not one manager out their that has control over the players that come in.

A manager years ago would go and scout the player themselves and go back to the owner or chairman and say who they wanted, however we don't have managers anymore they are HEAD COACH who are just told to train the players and its done to the director or football who we bring in, and it's also a lot to do with agents who in my opinion have spoilt the game.


3.) 21 Dec 2023 15:14:21
Lower BC, that’s why we willl never attract any great coaches. Can you imagine Klopp, Pep or Arteta putting up with the interference like SC has had to? Hence, the merry go round of new appointments.


4.) 21 Dec 2023 18:12:51
Do you really think they have that much say on who comes in aswell, good example kelvin Philips great prospect went to man city and has sat on the bench, he was not peps choice of player and it shows pep didn't want him, arteta never wanted ramesdale his first choice was alway raya.

We won't attract no big coach at the moment due to not finishing high enough in the league and no European football.

Who is a top class coach you would like to see though being our head coach, for me I would like Marco rose.

{Ed001's Note - neither of those examples are true, both Pep and Arteta have full control of recruitment.}


5.) 21 Dec 2023 19:40:32
Thought so Ed1. What’s the recruitment agreement at Liverpool with Klopp?

{Ed001's Note - he has final say.}


 

 

14 Mar 2023 18:08:56
Dennis also I guess before Ayew. Though, as I say, none of those replacements have pulled any trees up this season . ?.

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13 Mar 2023 20:49:49
I have been trying in my own mind to list the players in the squad who, if all fully fit, would form the spine of the team and are essential and nailed on for the best starting 11. I've come up with Navas/ Hendo, Aurier (? ) Felipe, Boly, Lodi, Yates, MGW, Anoniyi and Johnno. So counting the goalkeepers as one because they are equally good imo, of those 9, Boly, Anoniyi and probably Johnno are unavailable ie a third of the first choice players. Anybody disagree with that list and assessment?

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1.) 14 Mar 2023 17:07:49
Just 2 to find for midfield then Stokey. Which is a big talking point atm, I'd like at least one of the Brazilians in there.


2.) 14 Mar 2023 18:06:31
MV mate, I’d probably go with a Christmas tree 4321 with the players available. So same back 5 as per last game ( can’t see SC risking Niakhate for Worrall to start), then Yates, Shelvey and Danilo, the MGW and Scarpa just behind Surridge. If Johnno is available, then he replaces Scarpa at least to start. Depends on his fitness state. Still leaves Williams and Niakhate defensive cover, Colback Freuler in midfield, and Ayew, Lingard etc. As you can see, beyond the core players, we are very thin on the ground in terms of quality.


3.) 14 Mar 2023 19:08:46
It’s a right mess Stokey. Along with the injuries to decent players we only have dross to replace them. Things ain’t working, we are slipping nearer the relegation places but “in Cooper we trust” refuses to change formation or playing staff. Leaving creative match winners like Scarpa and Surridge benched or not even in the squad. And I’m not having that tripe about Scarpa not being ready yet, he didn’t win the golden ball in the top league in Brazil for being “not ready”. But keep on picking the same crap with the same formation, park the bus but still leak goals and see where that gets us. But my guess is that Eeyore, Lingard and Freuler will start against the Toon.


4.) 15 Mar 2023 09:57:00
We now know why Scarpa hasn't been in the squad. He's struggling to afford a new head band atm.


5.) 27 Mar 2023 05:43:23
Probably leaves him out because he doesn't pass backwards enough can't have anyone attacking just don't suit forest style of play lol.


 

 

15 Feb 2023 20:40:01
It's looks like Boly out for 3 months and McKenna 2 months according to John Percy at the Telegraph. Not good at all.

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21 Mar 2024 20:48:52
My wife's in a right mood because someone's stolen her knickers from the clothes line. She's not so much bothered about the underwear just the 12 pegs. ??

Honestly, women eh! You give them an inch and they fake a smile! ??

I went out for a run today but came back after 2 minutes because I forgot something. I forgot that I'm so fat I can't run for more than 2 minutes! ?????.

StokeyRed

1.) 21 Mar 2024 21:06:56
Where you dug those jokes up from stokey?


2.) 22 Mar 2024 09:37:23
As always Stokey.


 

 

21 Mar 2024 18:47:36
Leicester charged with FFP breach! Suddenly I don't feel so alone in the world! ????.

StokeyRed

1.) 21 Mar 2024 21:08:49
Well overdue
Scum of a club
Caused everything and have always got away with it
What you got to say now skeggs about their clever lawyers? ??.


2.) 21 Mar 2024 21:20:04
There clever lawyers have put it off till next season when there in the premier league and stopped it happening this season while in championship so delayed it very good tactics from good lawyers pal ?.


3.) 21 Mar 2024 22:46:00
Great see where your real allegiance lies skeggs, but I've never doubted that your a bin dipper.


 

 

19 Mar 2024 18:18:26
Reading between the lines of the Commisions report they said words to the effect that the 4 points was not meant to punish Forest but to redress the balance of fairness towards other clubs. Are they thinking of Luton, like us come up from years in the wilderness. Looking at the rest of the teams they are either long established Prem or "yo yo" clubs in receipt of parachute payments.
The powers that be probably want the Hatters to survive at our expense as a defence against the allegation of inherent unfairness? Ie if Luton can stay within the limits why can't Forest?

StokeyRed

1.) 19 Mar 2024 18:54:24
By that I'd assume they meant, that we broke the rules but the other clubs in the league barring Everton didn't.


2.) 19 Mar 2024 19:01:18
Stokey pity the aren’t being fair to the rest of the teams and deducting man c and Chelsea.


3.) 19 Mar 2024 19:39:19
We admitted doing it we need to stop crying and move on.


4.) 19 Mar 2024 20:31:48
Yes, perhaps DTP, but I think all the other clubs who didn’t break the rules didn’t have to because they were long established in the Prem and in receipt of hundreds of millions quid ( except Everton who still managed to commit a breach). The promoted sides except Luton were in receipt of parachute payments giving them an advantage over other teams in the Championship and a flying start to life in the Prem ( except Sheff Utd who have decided to take a relegation hit and save the money for a Championship campaign next season ( a bit like Norwich did for years )


5.) 19 Mar 2024 21:11:53
That's why the efl clubs are happy with the government's new initiative and the premier arent.


6.) 19 Mar 2024 22:42:17
Can you get the bin dippers lawyers to give us a hand skeggs
You know that team in blue you support for finding a loophole?


7.) 20 Mar 2024 15:24:51
Nothing wrong with finding and exploiting loopholes, DTP. The government are using loopholes so they can continue buying oil from Russia.


 

 

19 Mar 2024 16:43:32
I ve posted on here before that our owner is almost entirely to blame for our predicament regarding the points deduction. For all the good things he has done for our famous club and massive investment etc the FFP shambles is an example of irresponsible and cavalier football club owners.
It came out in evidence that Mr M deliberately ignored his Finance Director s advice that the club was heading for a breach and he over rode it.
Also, the NFST has released a statement saying that, in numerous meetings with the Forest hierarchy they were repeatedly assured that everything was under control and they would avoid FFP punishment. This is a matter of public record and indisputable.
As I concluded before, in the words of the Trojan High Priest Laocoon in Virgil's Aeniad "Never trust a Greek even when he comes bearing gifts" ( in this case the huge Trojan Horse and we know how that turned out).

StokeyRed

1.) 19 Mar 2024 17:42:59
Great post Stokey. Love the allusion at the end. I see Mr M proudly presenting NFFC with the Golden Fleece on the Argo moored at Trent Bridge, except this time maybe it was just glitter without any honour!


2.) 19 Mar 2024 18:07:42
Excellent Norfolk mate! ???
Thinking about it, is Mr Marinkinakos just Icarus in disguise, punished for trying to fly too high and too near the Sun?
Bowie, if you spot this post mate here’s a quiz teaser ( and for the rest of you if you’re so minded. What’s the link between Icarus and David Bowie? ???
Just as a footnote, our deduction has certainly got the pundits and media circus talking about the iniquity and in built unfairness of the Premier League, especially in relation to newly promoted teams with no parachute payments like us ( uniquely).


3.) 19 Mar 2024 18:31:29
The labyrinth stokey, greek myth I'd imagine?


4.) 19 Mar 2024 19:04:34
Stokey the Greek has steered us back into the top flight after nearly a quarter of a century though, the prudent late mr doughty failed time and again,


5.) 19 Mar 2024 19:09:47
Maybe the Greek myth (ed) out on how to use a calculator Bowie!


6.) 19 Mar 2024 19:31:28
You've lost me Norfolk is this for another crystal ?.


7.) 19 Mar 2024 20:33:47
Good point Stevie as long as the big man’s ambition doesn’t lead us straight back down again. Personally I think we be ok but it will be tight mate!


8.) 19 Mar 2024 20:53:27
Good call Bowie, with the Labyrinth being invented by Daedalus the father of Icarus. But the more convoluted link starts with the painting “Landscape with Icarus Falling” by Bruegel the Elder, Dutch Old Master circa 1560. In 1938 the poet WH Auden visited the Museum of Fine Arts in Brussels where he was living at the time where he saw the painting and was so taken with it wrote the poem “Museum des Beaux Artes” about it.
Fast forward to the 1970s where the British film director Nicholas Roeg read the poem then saw the painting and became obsessed with the myth of Icarus.
In 1976 he made his film version of the story but with a sci fi vibe and called it “The Man Who Fell to Earth” starring your man David Bowie who was also fascinated by the story as it fitted in with his alter ego Ziggy!
Although Bowie later said he couldn’t remember much about the making of the film because he was taking at least 10 ozs of cocaine daily to combat his anxiety problems!
Amazing story 400 years in the making!


9.) 19 Mar 2024 21:04:39
Sorry Bowie, just a bad pun about out owners apparent poor maths over this!


10.) 19 Mar 2024 22:30:47
What's the point getting upset
It's not scholar, doughty or fawaz in charge
He didn't expect to be fighting a relegation fight with the players he bought in and neither did I tbh
So wasn't concerned about a possible points deduction?


11.) 20 Mar 2024 10:45:07
Good information there stokey. Thank you ?.


 

 

18 Mar 2024 18:07:06
Well if you look at my previous posts it's panned out roughly as I thought. Guilty plea with mitigation. I thought 3 to 5 points with the possibility of the punishment being suspended.
I think we have been double crossed by the Premier League to some extent and on appeal we will have our honesty and co operation better rewarded with 2 more points off. We deserve some punishment because the big man ignored the warnings issued by our Financial Director ( and presumably Mr Randall) of the impending breach. However this is offset by the inherent unfairness of the Premier League system which only allows £60 million loss over 3 seasons ( 2, of them in the Championship for us) for newly promoted teams not in receipt of parachute payments like us. Unlike the rest of the League which is allowed £105 million ( including Everton).
Our breach was £35 million, more than covered by Brennans sale £48 million.
I think even if the appeal fails we could go to the Court of Arbitration in Sport and get it scrubbed altogether ( but by then we'll be ensconced in the Championship).
Of course, the bottom line is that if we start stringing a few good results together the legal shenanigans become totally irrelevant.
I'm optimistic. I think our run in is much easier than Luton's and their thin squad is getting thinner with injuries etc. Plus Evertons breach is still pending.
If I were Mr Nuno I'd get the squad together and create a siege mentality, tell them the above facts and use the circumstances as a motivator! Coyr!

StokeyRed

1.) 18 Mar 2024 18:58:43
Stokey pity we haven’t got a home game Saturday, while emotions are still running high, don’t think palace would have fancied it too much.


2.) 18 Mar 2024 19:26:10
Need to get the same atmosphere as last season for last few games make it a fortress again

Really believe lack of noise this season has impact on home games and ultimately cost us points

Shocking at times particularly the cup games.


3.) 18 Mar 2024 21:50:34
Read alan pardews take on forest and Everton
He's spot on.


 

 

 

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17 Mar 2024 14:14:13
Where did you hear this Munmad mate?

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12 Mar 2024 09:02:46
Sharkey, that’s true mate! ???.

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11 Mar 2024 17:54:44
Ed 1 Your wise words are as pearls cast before swine………. ??????.

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11 Mar 2024 14:45:51
Ed I’ve always subscribed to the idea that it’s best to have friends in low places! ??.

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11 Mar 2024 12:45:59
Carlo, I’m reminded of T. S. Eliots line in “Preludes” mate

“Short square fingers stuffing pipes,
And evening newspapers, and eyes
ASSURED OF CERTAIN CERTAINTIES
The conscience of a blackened street
Impatient to assume the world. ”

How certain are you my friend? Worth a bet? Just asking for a friend……. ????.

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28 Mar 2024 13:43:35
Well, when I worked at Central I was Sergeant on a shift of 12 of whom 7 were ex military. We were routinely known as “F” troop and included 2 paras and a Royal Marine who had served with in the Falklands. I can only say they were excellent coppers and outstanding human beings.

My Dad (RIP) a great bloke was a National Serviceman in the RAMC (the Medics). Bored with his posting to Folkestone he volunteered for the Korean War which was raging at the time and he was sent to somewhere in Scotland by train in the dead of winter for special training ( which apparently included being blown up in a house with his mates then having to dig their own way out? ). He remembered his train being stopped by heavy snow and having to walk on his own with backpack, rifle etc through the deep snow around a big curving bay to the training camp at the end of it.

He was a very handsome man, a double for Paul Newman with the same piercing blue eyes) and he told us that some Scottish ladies were leaning out of factory windows as he trudged on, wolf whistling and inviting him in out of the cold but he assures me he didn’t because he was engaged to my Mum.

Anyway, to cut a short story long (?) the War ended as his training finished. Family legend has it that the Chinese had heard he was on the way and immediately surrendered! ???.

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28 Mar 2024 13:19:17
Very sad East Coast. One of my all time heroes. Had a few drinks with him at the Stage Door with some of my former CID colleagues back in the day. He came and did a brilliantly funny talk at a Charity Evening in the bar at Radford Road Police Station. He told some very interesting stories and took questions from his rapt audience. He started with the words “Good evening, can you all see me behind this microphone stand”? He told us how Peter Osgood at Chelsea was the dirtiest player he’d ever played against until the day he seized his opportunity to head butt him which nobody saw “as the fog had come in from the Trent and everybody was watching a Peter Shilton goal kick. ”
Cloughie and him never got on but Larry said he only realised later that the great man’s windups ( and fines) were motivational as the big man played his heart out to prove him wrong. He said 90 % of his “bespoke “ training was heading because “that’s all I want you do, nothing else because you can’t effing do anything else “. I never ever saw Larry lose a ball in the air or in a 50 50 collision. Him and Burnsy were the team “enforcers” so nobody took any liberties. A man with a personality as big as his build.
Some great stories and some heavy drinking that night
RIP big man and condolences to your loved ones.

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25 Mar 2024 17:53:38
Reyna looks a good player and is versatile being either a winger or attacking midfielder. As such he is a good option to give Nuno alternatives to Elanga, CHO or MGW ( or additional).
My mate in the USA ( an Englishman in Nevada) rates him highly but warned me that he’s a bit of a Bamford with loads of parental “advice” to his coaches!

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24 Mar 2024 14:26:23
Who would want to watch 2 reserve/ experimental sides playing at walking pace and trying to avoid getting injured. Tedious really.

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21 Mar 2024 17:25:28
Good afternoon Bowie. I’m sorry to hear you are off sick. Hope it’s nothing too serious mate?
Like you and Ed 1 I’m fascinated by WW2 ( and history generally) because it seems so comparatively to me, born in 1956 so I grew up able to listen to family, friends and people generally who had gone through it.
It was a rare “righteous “ war against an evil, ruthless, barbaric Fascist enemy where that Golden generation stood up ( against incredible odds) for what was morally right. This country was for a long time ( 6 years) the last line of resistance against the advent of a new Dark Age and the end of civilisation. Churchill was right …. “ If this country lasts for a thousand years men will say “this was its finest hour”.
It makes me laugh when I hear politicians call for conscription. This country is no longer physically, mentally or morally able to endure the self sacrifice required. We saw that in the last existential threat we faced, c.v., when the divisions, acrimony and self interest which dominates the way things are run came to the fore. Like Carlo, I blame Thatcher ( ironically the last politician to embark on a morally right War in the Falklands) for her statement that there is no such thing as society.
Anyway, rant over. We ignore the lessons of history at our peril
As far as Tourette’s is concerned I never really came across it at all in my Police Service ( and you’d think it would come to our attention in the first instance). There was a ( legendary) Detective I worked with who holds the record for the most swear words ever in conversation, he could even insert one mid word never mind mid sentence ( as in effing excel effing ent or Su effing perb). But he controlled it when he wanted to (like giving evidence in Court for example so I guess he wasn’t truly subject to this affliction.
The only time I came across Tourette’s was after I’d retired from the Police and worked at the Public Analysts Office in Stafford itself for 9 years where I would regularly be treated to seeing a young guy rhh on a state of the art racing bike ( with all the newest gear and kit) weaving in and out of traffic gesticulating and swearing dogs abuse at everyone at the top of his voice whilst pointing aggressively.
I spoke to a local cop and he confirmed he had been arrested many times but never prosecuted due to him being a genuine Tourette’s syndrome sufferer. He had suffered numerous beatings at the hands of irate members of the public as well.

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