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02 Jan 2024 20:11:37
Worrying reports tonight that the Premier League are looking at us over financial fair play. Shame given some of the dross we have paid out for -I know we sold Johnson but it could be a serious matter for us.
1.) 03 Jan 2024 06:51:49
They may stop us getting anymore players, which is not such a bad thing?.
2.) 03 Jan 2024 07:54:37
The Premier League will take Chelsea's and City's points deduction and give it to us and the Toffee's.
3.) 03 Jan 2024 09:29:07
Could effect a potential Navas loan?
4.) 03 Jan 2024 11:54:34
The PL is looking at everyone, it's the annual check of club accounts and we (and every other club) will find out if we've been good boys or not on 14th January. It's only the press that are targetting Forest as 'most likely', no the PL.
5.) 03 Jan 2024 14:08:01
I think we'll probably be OK:-
A few points.
We spent around 85m on wages last season; this excludes any income we received from players going out on loan.
Our liability on amortised transfer fees for last season was around 50m, you can add another 5m on top of that for loan fees.
That comes to around 140m
Our earnings from the PL will be a minimum of 114m
Our earnings from gate receipts will be around 30m, with another couple of million for the cup run.
We should have cleared another 5m from commercial rights and another 2m for additional corporate earnings.
I would guess that our earnings will be at least 150m - that would give a 30m margin of error - 10m plus the 20m we are allowed to lose
The Premier League allows any losses directly caused by the c.v. to be discounted from FFP calculations. Forest have previously said that the adverse impact of c.v. was £16.7million across 2019-20 and 2020-21.
Where we do have a problem is promotion bonuses for the year we went up. We didn't budget for these, so probably went outside the limit that season. Will we be sanctioned for that? If so, I'd say it is unlikely to be a 10 point deduction effectively for getting promoted unexpectedly.
6.) 03 Jan 2024 15:10:47
Interesting analysis RC. I've read that our championship losses used up our 'allowance'. £13 million per season and £35 million for first PL season, we overspent by £61 million before promotion.
Crux will be, what have we spent and generated in our first season back?
It would appear we're not allowed any losses, so BJ sale could be crucial. I like Forest in the news but prefer if it was footballing issues.
7.) 03 Jan 2024 22:31:21
Brennan Johnson transfer fee was 'pure profit'. Which apparently is quite important when factored into FFP. Not totally sure, though, as I've not really looked into that side of it all.
8.) 04 Jan 2024 08:44:55
Accounts for 2022/ 23 ended June, Johnson was sold in September so won't be included in the accounts.
Forest will argue they kept him beyond June to claim an extra £10m+ on his transfer fee.
Think it's going to be tight. Hopefully Big M has a few contacts.
9.) 04 Jan 2024 16:48:39
Steve, the big man does have contacts but unfortunately they’re all in Greece mate! ??.
10.) 08 Jan 2024 17:07:18
Eric Dier offered to Forest on loan apparently. sounds like rubbish to me!
14 Jun 2023 17:42:55
Brentford bid 30 million for Johnson.
Dream on.
Who’s been smoking the crack pipe down in London? Obviously we rejected out of hand.
1.) 14 Jun 2023 19:19:09
Has to be untouchable this window.
2.) 14 Jun 2023 22:11:23
Ivan Toney bet on us keeping him so must be good.
3.) 17 Jun 2023 10:25:44
He will want another year with us at least to establish himself as a top striker.
16 Apr 2023 13:31:07
Well I’m in the boozer before kick off. Big rumours that Steven Gerard will be at the City Ground today. So keep your eyes out folks ?.
1.) 16 Apr 2023 14:03:55
More likely to be keeping an eye on parked cars for a few quid than anything else.
2.) 16 Apr 2023 14:14:02
I don’t think a young inexperienced manager such as Gerrard or Viera have any chance of saving Forest, infact it’s frying pan into the fire. Who did Crystal Palace replace Viera with a 70 yr old. We would be better with a Sam A, Harry, or Benitez.
3.) 16 Apr 2023 14:29:11
Sacking Vieira worked for palace as they brought in a manger who knows the club and players. Sacking the manager hasn't helped southampton or Leicester.
4.) 16 Apr 2023 16:30:00
'arry has sunk every club he's been to!
12 Apr 2023 06:09:41
Forest in talks with Rangers Sporting Director Ross Wilson. Let’s hope if he does come he doesn’t sign the likes of Wood, Shelvey etc.
1.) 12 Apr 2023 20:49:19
Did a great job at Southampton by all accounts.
2.) 13 Apr 2023 06:44:06
Let's give it a go and see what happens. Januaya complete disaster in the transfer market ?.
11 Apr 2023 18:39:09
sporting director, Filippo Giraldi, has been relieved of duties
Only been here 6 months.
Big M sharpening his ace as we speak.
1.) 12 Apr 2023 12:02:35
To me that indicates once again he's not happy with the transfers we've brought in.
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19 Jan 2025 21:27:26
Good win today but much more complicated than it should have been. Wonderful first half but some tired legs in the second half. And that muppet of a referee - what a joke of a decision to rule out our 4th goal. Utterly disgusting and oh so predictable given the history he has with us. The refereeing and VAR standards in our country now are woefully low.
1.) 20 Jan 2025 06:51:16
Wood was in an offside position when the ball was played and he challenged for the ball. If that happened at the other end you would've screamed 'OFFSIDE! '.
2.) 21 Jan 2025 21:34:12
If you call that a challenge ???.
30 Nov 2024 22:21:12
Tough game today, I’m not sure Ipswich are the relegation certainties people think. It was always going to be a tight affair- just pleased we came out the winners. Thought Yates was marvellous today but a bit tired of seeing MGW trying the near impossible at times.
1.) 30 Nov 2024 23:02:45
Agree Frog. I know he got us a penalty, but I also became a bit tired of Jota Silva falling over in 'agony' when anyone sneezed near him.
2.) 01 Dec 2024 02:15:08
Jota was absolutely crap in the first half.
He picked up a bit 2ndb.
But. Big difference between being a starter and sub.
Hope todays experience has developed him. he surely has the ability ? ?.
3.) 01 Dec 2024 06:27:28
Yeh agree lads Jota wasn’t the best yesterday but I do think there is a player in there somewhere. Tough few games ahead now.
4.) 01 Dec 2024 08:40:46
Bit like our "Hilda" a while back.
10 Nov 2024 16:12:57
Abysmal second half performance- that’s what manager of the month awards do ?
Newcastle deserved it and in all honesty it could have been more than 1-3.
1.) 10 Nov 2024 16:46:46
I'll we didn't have enough to threaten them second half. I'll be happy when we get to 35 points. Aina and Murrillo very good today. MGW terrible.
22 Oct 2024 17:58:09
Good result last night, we needed that home win though I have to say us fans were a little quiet until we scored. Imagine where we could go if our place was a noisy fortress like the last couple of seasons COYR.
1.) 22 Oct 2024 18:48:58
Totally agree froggy mate. In fact we were going on about it on live chat. Think i heard a few grunts in injury time. For me just because nuno doesn't give fist pumps and meeting the local grannies. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be getting behind the players on the ground, and everyone behind the scenes if ya look at it. don't make the fortress weak. Without doubt our strength and known world wide.
2.) 23 Oct 2024 08:11:01
The novelty of being back in the Premier League has wore off after 2 years. Hence, why the fans aren't as loud as they were the first season. It was 20-plus years of built up relief that we were back.
3.) 23 Oct 2024 17:03:53
Good reply there polly ?.
4.) 23 Oct 2024 18:30:28
Agreed Polly, the city ground becoming very PL.
07 Oct 2024 06:11:52
Wish I could have gone to Chelsea, love hearing the bridge quiet after we score. Brilliant performance and brilliant support. Very proud of our club.
1.) 07 Oct 2024 07:56:11
We are no longer the Whipping Boys of the Premier League.
WE ARE BACK!
2.) 07 Oct 2024 12:16:35
Went yesterday and our support was amazing totally out sung the Chinese and American tourists!
Remember when Chelsea away was very hostile and intimidating, they barely even sang after scoring yesterday.
24 Dec 2024 20:15:34
Err no thanks. He turned us down before. Why bother calling z he’s just not worth it.
22 May 2024 20:47:46
Well if he does go we will get some compensation. Skegs can be our next manager from the luxury of his seaside recliner. How ya fixed Skegs? ?.
21 May 2024 05:35:02
Perhaps he needs a bit of time Stokey but I have a feeling he’s just not quite the man we need at present. However he has kept us up under difficult circumstances but how much of that was more luck than judgement is anyone’s guess.
It would perhaps be a tough call to sack him.
20 May 2024 12:47:31
If he leaves I hope we aren’t paying him off. I’m no fan of Nuno but perhaps, just for once, we give a coach a chance with the transfer policy he actually wants? We certainly look more capable of scoring goals under him but the defensive side of things has been atrocious. Stability is needed all round.
12 Feb 2024 20:09:09
Well having seen Sels live he looks crap but his kicking is better than the others. We seem to have a group of goalkeepers who are unable to make saves when it matters.
21 Jan 2025 21:34:12
If you call that a challenge ???.
01 Dec 2024 06:27:28
Yeh agree lads Jota wasn’t the best yesterday but I do think there is a player in there somewhere. Tough few games ahead now.
17 Jun 2024 06:57:23
Fair point Ed- one of our top players being held back by defensive Gareth’s mindset.
{Ed001's Note - it happens all the time with England, John Barnes used to get it all the time. Best attacking player in England with Liverpool, then he would go away with England, get given instructions to be defensive and he would get pelters for not being the same player. Of course they are not going to be the same. It will be worse for Foden. He has grown up in the City system playing one style of play all the time. England play nothing like Citeh. So he is not going to be able to play his natural game anyway no matter what.}
02 Jun 2024 21:32:43
Yes a terribly sad day RIP Rob, very brave man and a credit to his family. A hideous disease that robs the person of every last ounce of dignity.
23 May 2024 19:14:04
Agree Carlo and whoever is manager needs to be backed with signings and sales that HE SEES FIT not what those behind the scenes require.