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29 Dec 2017 15:34:34
I was one of the fans who really wanted stability to stick with a manager, give them plenty of time to get a decent backroom staff together and to try and implement a way of playing that can work through from the youngsters to the first team. I am however struggling to see enough positives from MW - the way he plays should be worked on through the academy and I'm sure we would see results in the coming years here comes the problem!
I cannot think of any manager who has ever been successful who hasn't played to his players or collective groups strengths, the level of success doesn't matter - it could be winning the champions league, a cup or winning a relegation battle. It looks to me that we are playing to our weaknesses in an attempt to play in a way that some of our players just cannot do.
We do have some good players and if they are encouraged to play to their strengths rather than their weaknesses we could easily have an extra 6-10 points this season. Come on breadman - play to our strengths and we will all support you, keep messing and it's a downwards spiral and more fans will get on your back.
1.) 29 Dec 2017 17:05:20
But he’s not got a full squad capable of playing the football he wants. He’s not moaned about the squad that he has but it’s certainly obvious he feels he needs more of a certain type of player.
You’re right, we need stability but more importantly, and possibly above other things - we need patience and belief. No one is saying, “let’s see how this works over the next 5 years†- it’s a case of us understanding that right now, we are simply a mid table team trying to improve.
That improvement comes from a structure, a philosophy and a recruitment plan which are all on the same page.
Give this man another season and if it’s not working we look at our options. I’d also make a case for us being unable to attract top, top managers if we continue this revolving door policy.
2.) 29 Dec 2017 18:43:56
2 tone your bang on regarding players playing to strengths.Joe Worrall is a good example.When he keeps it simple he looks class but sometimes I feel he takes risks with the ball when it's just not necessary and seems out of character.I do have to give MW credit for giving some of these young men a chance.Past managers have been guilty of having a closed door policy on young players development.
3.) 29 Dec 2017 19:18:51
Ldn red - he’ll never have a full squad capable of playing the way he wants, that’s a completely different level to where we are and would cost millions!! If he isn’t careful he will ruin some of our ‘better’ players as they will forget what they are actually good at. I want to back him and give him a few years but I do want to see steady signs of improvement
4.) 29 Dec 2017 19:56:43
I’m not saying you’re wrong - but what I will point to is that in past/current seasons, teams which play a very similar style to us have competed at the top end or been promoted without spending millions.
Teams like: Sheffield United, Reading, Fulham, Bournemouth, Watford and Swansea.
MW won’t be looking to try and spend millions, he’ll be selecting players which fit his style.
5.) 29 Dec 2017 21:51:21
Bang on 2tone. Best post on here for ages
6.) 29 Dec 2017 21:53:35
Another season... You really think so?
Please lnd red enlighten us to why you think he should be given another season?
You state you want to sit down all of whom disagree with the way of the breadman... Again please enlighten us? Myself like many feel exactly like 2tone.
The inability to address many shortcomings is not how structure is built.
Structure comes from the chairman down to the staff who steward each week.
There seems to be a piece missing where Warburton is concerned his way of tactics, leaving players out in the cold and playing out position isn't a structured formula.
Yes structure takes time I agree but how much time is required.... 2,3,4 seasons?
So lnd red please with your infinite wisdom and inside knowledge tell us why Mr. Warburton is the messiah?
7.) 29 Dec 2017 23:11:04
I’m not one for enlightenment, I have an opinion, just like everyone here.
There’s certainly negatives with some of MW’s decisions, not all I’ve agreed with. But why kick us when we’re down though? Why get rid of the manager so quickly and start from scratch - AGAIN.
I feel it boils down to this. We have a young squad incapable of playing MW’s tactics on a regular basis and some fan favourites not getting as much game time as people would like. I’d be the first to say that we should’ve signed a CB and a GK in the summer, I’d like to think we tried (Hector & Federici) at least! The defence is certainly our weak point and it’s of course a shortcoming thay it wasn’t fixed back then.
The team he has now isn’t even his yet. There’s plenty of players in there which don’t suit the way Warburton wants to play which I think is largely why some players are being played out of position or not at all (Vellios). I personally feel we need to trust in a philosophy/manager and buy players which are suited to that style. It’s the only way we can make a real success of this - not by bringing in someone new and having them reshape the squad their way.
If we’ve learnt anything over the past few years, it’s that changing manager takes us at least 8months to reset. It’s been the thing which has largely held us back in recent years.
What we have now (I think), is a manager who wants to promote from within, has a clear idea of how he wants us to play and is willing to build a squad capable of doing that in his style. It doesn’t just happen in 1 window (incredibly rarely!).
Worth noting quickly - if we lose MW, we also lose our DoF, Frank McParland. Not something I’d want to do in a hurry.
Warburton aside for a minute - and remembering last season, where do people feel would be an acceptable place for us to finish based on our squad. Top half would be a lot of progress in my book.
If we can manage our expectations and take the lows with the highs, I think we’ll all be better for it.
8.) 30 Dec 2017 09:38:31
LDN Red
I agree with what you are trying to get across, but i feel 2 things are getting on most people's nerves are, we let the opposition score too easily, and there has been little sign of it being sorted, and inspite all of our possession, and odd patches of really good football the opposition mostly out play us.
It is a slow process, and we should try to be more positive, and hope for the best, but with each loss it gets harder.
9.) 30 Dec 2017 10:25:00
With you there 100%. Who here could say watching us lose is much fun?! I was at the Wednesday game and felt for much of the match we were actually miles better than them. 3 one on ones and a strong penalty shout - we were unfortunate not to go in 3-1 up at half time.
I digress.
The defence is a cause for concern and a large one at that. Most attacking possession based sides do leave themselves open at the back. We do need to be more solid but I’d wager that this is a personnel issue more than anything else.
Look at Huddersfield’s style of play (Champ and Prem), they look to out score you rather than play bland, slow football where you’d be lucky to see us score a goal. Progress is slow but my god, weren’t we a lot worse before?
The statement from the new owners and in particular the new chairman stated they wanted stability. This comes from trust and again, managing our own expectations.
14 Jan 2017 18:51:19
25 million for a club like ours which is running at a loss, has no real assets and no structure still seems an awful lot of money. Fawaz thinks it's worth double that? Whose mad? Is it fawaz, is it the yanks for spending so much time and effort on a gamble that the selller might just crumble and give it away at the last minute or is it the fans who think the club is something that any sane businessman would buy at 50 mill? I'd suggest it's all three of the above?
1.) 14 Jan 2017 19:03:50
It's a gamble but run the club right and we could be worth a hell of a lot more. just think with fawaz gone we will have the 10k back that are staying away whilst he's in charge bringing more money in. get Nigel clough or rowatt in and we will never lose another game and be promoted first season which again brings even more money in! simple
2.) 14 Jan 2017 19:25:28
Lets take it on dragons den see if peter jones will invest
3.) 14 Jan 2017 19:41:00
Nffc is a brand, and as one of only 5 English clubs to be. European champions, then yes, worth 50 mill. Famous throughout the world, and that, you can't buy. Well you can, but you know what I mean!
4.) 14 Jan 2017 19:42:28
what crystal ball you been using?
5.) 14 Jan 2017 22:31:49
None of the championship clubs make money unless they have parachute payments. The difference is a prem team costs 150M and a champ team can get brought for sub 30M. Get it right. get paid.
Our attraction is we have history and fan base. but no ground. We are in this melee every year until we either go up or down. Same as 16 of the other teams. Championship teams lose money. They operate on negative equity. Like it or not Fawaz has helped us exist. JJM would have just been the next one to spin us for another 5 years.
27 Aug 2013 01:06:47
ive been told Rhodes is going Wigan on the final day of the window? Info from a big scouse fan with good links around the nw
1.) No you just read the rumour yesterday. Wigan may however have the cash to buy him after the sale of young midfielder James McCarthy.
2.) Forest rumours
{Ed034's Note - this is a forest rumour as fans on here have been talking about him. If any fan doesn't like the rumour being posted, ignore it and move on to the next
3.) If i'd seen that rumour yesterday why would I just post it again? As I said in the op I was told this by a lpool fan who has good links around the north west.
4.) And its the same Liverpool fan who told me that I wouldn't be able to understand carragher on tv! So he us 100% correct with his info so far this season :-)
{Ed034's Note - he is awful
5.) Not according to Blackburn MD who says they will not sell to Wigan. Its going to be an interesting week to see who we get and who goes. If we could sell a few Rhodes could be affordable with the financial rules.
6.) He has a terrible tv voice which seems to get higher and higher the more animated he gets! Knows his stuff though and says it how it is
Keeno
7.) Wigan have signed Grant Holt - why would they need another?
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10 Sep 2026 18:29:10
I haven't posted for a while but still look occasionally and tbh the site is shocking now. Completely ruined by a few posters who are either self promoting or trying very hard to portray themselves as superior to others. There's always going to be a few disagreements and arguments and that's one of the things that made the site worth looking at but once the comments were more about people's everyday life or what literature they read the football site just died.
If people had read the room it would still be ticking over nicely. Some decent, knowledgeable football fans have been ridiculed whilst others have quoted tosh to explain how a team won or lost a game of football.
1.) 10 Sep 2026 21:14:21
2tone it died ages ago as a Forest football site mate, we lost a lot of good posters over the years,
2.) 10 Sep 2026 22:53:25
Good to see you post again 2 Tone. I've been reading your posts for a long time now - well before I even became a member of this site. I've always thought that you talk a lot of sense.
There is, however, nothing wrong with people defending themselves when others take it beyond Forest banter and turn it into personal rebukes on other individuals on here.
Should those under personal attack just roll-over and accept that? I won't. (Stevie will get it from his past.).
We all love Forest. End of. Maybe now a certain person has left, things will now get back to 'normal' on here. I hope so.
3.) 10 Sep 2026 22:55:24
I really miss Creepy's posts. His post-match analyses were addictive reading.
4.) 10 Sep 2026 22:16:10
I blame thatcher and Trump ?.
5.) 11 Sep 2026 00:03:21
Good to hear from you again, 2 tone. I can't be bothered anymore either. Perhaps I'll change and post if things get back to how they were. Some posters now are just too full of themselves, nobody loves a know it all.
6.) 11 Sep 2026 09:07:08
"What does he know of cricket, who only cricket knows?” I'm sure CLR James would include football and all team sports in that.
The best way to move forward on this imo is to respectfully request our long suffering Ed to organise a poll and resolve things through good old democracy.
A simple poll. perhaps along the lines of
. " This site's posts should consist of
A. Strictly football only posts or
B Football and other posts.
Also with a seperate question
A Personal remarks should be banned
B Personal remarks should be allowed
? What do you think ?
7.) 11 Sep 2026 10:08:38
B and A.
8.) 11 Sep 2026 05:46:50
I agree 2tone, though most posters are ok there is one in particular who says things from behind the anonymity of a keyboard that he wouldn't dare says to my face.
I attend matches like he does, offered to meet him many times to straighten things out.
But he never will. The site was a laugh (yes even you skegs) ?? but not anymore. I rarely post now, one person about ruined it for everyone and we all know who it is.
9.) 11 Sep 2026 09:28:28
There is other posts stokie. That's what the discussion page is supposed to be for but isn't getting used properly. and no point having polls posters abuse the tick box just saying.
{Ed033's Note - It seems posters leave because of the Personal remarks. On the other football sites, they talk 95%+ about football.
On this site it's different however, from now on we can have rumours on the Rumour page, football related content on the Banter page, non football related content on the Discussion page.
10.) 11 Sep 2026 10:41:46
I also assume that the Eds continue to have the final say on what makes it through to print and what doesn't? Or do we need a poll on that too?
{Ed033's Note - We don't need polls. This site was built for football fans/supporters to talk about Nottingham Forest/football with other football fans/supporters. We need Eds to have the final say on what gets posted to the pages.
11.) 11 Sep 2026 10:58:51
Eds, I take it that the issue about the manipulation of polls raised by Skegs can be controlled at your end mate ie one man one vote ?
Also, as I remarked to Larry, shall we leave it to the Eds ( men of wise and mature judgment) to decide which post goes where?
{Ed033's Note - The polls are one man one vote. If someone ticks multiple boxes, then they cancel out their one vote. The polls should be seen as a rough estimate anyway.
Yes, leave it to the Eds to decide where each post goes.
12.) 11 Sep 2026 11:49:31
Wow sounds like a court sitting ??.
13.) 11 Sep 2026 12:34:09
How do you know what a court sitting is like Skegs?
14.) 11 Sep 2026 12:42:53
Just using my imagination bsered ?.
15.) 11 Sep 2026 13:51:13
Very perceptive post BSE. I don't know if you've seen the wonderful romcom " When Harry Met Sally "?
Well, court was where Larry met Skeggy I'm sure mate.???.
16.) 11 Sep 2026 13:58:08
Stokey, after all the crap of the last days, after everything thats been said. why?
17.) 11 Sep 2026 14:01:00
Let it go stokie sometimes you just after admit your beaten ??.
18.) 11 Sep 2026 13:11:20
Fair enough Ed and thank you.
I guess if things don't change on here they will stay pretty much the same ?
Thanks also for allaying Skegs concerns about the voting process.
19.) 11 Sep 2026 18:58:54
Just to clarify Sleggs.
It's " have to”'not "after” mate
And the Ed has pointed out that your comment about pollsters abusing the tick boxes is entirely wrong and inaccurate.
Just saying.?.
20.) 11 Sep 2026 20:01:32
By the way.”beaten”? I didn't even know I was in any sort of competition mate. When did we kick off? ????.
21.) 11 Sep 2026 22:10:51
Maybe my memory is faltering again Stokey, but aren't you a Capricorn star sign? A stubborn goat who quite enjoys 'butting heads'.
22.) 11 Sep 2026 23:13:34
Red frog your post regarding DTP sounds a bit on the threatening side, please tell me I'm mistaken,
23.) 12 Sep 2026 05:16:07
Did not interact very much with DTP, but read his posts with interest, the ones before he was dragged into bickering debates, he had a opinion about Sels, Nuno and would have liked to see his opinion about Jesus, who he said would be a goal machine this season ( still time?), if the Eds banned him there's still a few agitators on here.
24.) 12 Sep 2026 05:19:11
That's the last thing you need to see, two Senior Citizens having a rumble, when they should be discussing where to get thermal underwear for the winter?.
25.) 12 Sep 2026 11:24:54
I'm afraid your memory is entirely accurate Lego. Capricorn it is. Honestly, if I had a tenner for every time my bosses put the phrase " doesn't brook fools easily " in staff appraisals I'd be as rich as our owner mate.
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Did you know that Wellingtons nickname for the 45th Foot ( later Sherwood Foresters ) was " the Stubborns” after seeing them perform in all his great victories in the Peninsula Campaign ? ??.
08 Mar 2026 16:21:19
This was on the post website but it did make me laugh!
Lucca apparently was flying back to Italy for a fitness assessment - someone replied and said he would probably miss the flight ?.
1.) 08 Mar 2026 18:35:04
Was it a "fit for purpose" assessment by any chance, 2tone?
2.) 09 Mar 2026 18:54:15
Not much craic on here today, lads?
3.) 09 Mar 2026 19:29:17
Bloke at the end of my road sells that Rogie, want me to ask if he can deliver? ??
4.) 09 Mar 2026 19:36:53
Does he do Guinness, mate?
???
5.) 09 Mar 2026 19:51:17
Judging by the characters that hang around his house, I doubt it. ??
01 Mar 2026 16:07:09
How do they get away with calling themselves professional footballers? Not one player with any football intelligence and a complete lack of urgency. They all think they are better than they are but not one of them can hold their head up high (maybe sels). They don't deserve our support. Can't blame the manager or owner for slackness and stupidity on the pitch.
1.) 01 Mar 2026 17:25:06
Well said 2tone.
05 Oct 2025 12:55:12
Just put a bet on - gibbs white and Anderson to both have one shot on target. £1 bet returns £1, 000, 000 ?.
1.) 05 Oct 2025 13:20:03
I reckon you've lost a quid there 2tone.
2.) 05 Oct 2025 13:51:11
2 shots on target? You're optimistic.
3.) 05 Oct 2025 14:09:44
2tone ??, I love dark humour.
05 Sep 2025
New image uploaded to the
Nottingham Forest Player Sightings page entitled, Couple of team photos of bowies son with Elliot Anderson/Wallsend boys. He’ll have to point out whose who ?
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1.) 05 Sep 2025 23:08:08
I’m guessing Elliot is front row 1in from the end on the right hand side.
2.) 05 Sep 2025 22:53:20
Bless ya 2tone my friend ty for putting them up. And Ed 33. I'm too old. Anyway my boy again on left. Anderson 2nd right. Watched him so many times as a youngun for wallsend boys. Just stood out. My boy in goal btw. Shearer, beardsley, waddle, names go on and on. Yet with their millions done very little to help the club.
Hence my love of gazz and his love of local clubs. They actually went down not long after. Think they are up n running again. Not sure. But just showing ya dtp my hate of the ugliness of football. My son actually as I've said ended up at the academy at Newcastle. But hated it. But still to this day coaches the youth for them till this day. Proud father I am. X.
3.) 06 Sep 2025 10:28:23
Great pic, nice the manager took em all horse racing to celebrate, that cracked me up:)
4.) 06 Sep 2025 16:19:53
Superb Bowie, you must be proud as punch mate??.
5.) 06 Sep 2025 18:54:52
I am rrh bud and ty sir ?.
18 Sep 2024 11:00:32
Why listen to what the actual player said when you can just make up a load of crap and question someone at the club?!?!
13 Mar 2024 22:04:07
Not sure about any leaks with ffp and psr but the lawyers will find plenty of holes in it ?.
09 Dec 2023 08:09:18
And MGW was coopers choice and our biggest signing? I don’t really get what you’re saying? Just get these decent players, playing to the best of their ability and nobody would have an issue? I’m not one to get on coopers back but there’s something wrong.
26 Jul 2023 11:59:30
I’m a sparky wonky and I often get my wires crossed - so it’s good to know other people do the same.
I’m not a very good sparky and when people find out how bad I am they’re shocked ? ⚡️.
16 Apr 2023 14:03:55
More likely to be keeping an eye on parked cars for a few quid than anything else.
25 Sep 2026 10:19:27
Stokey - that's the first time that highly competent and a politician have been mentioned in the same sentence. Are you feeling ok?
17 Mar 2026 09:59:57
10% of the player's body is ridiculous!! It would have to be either 9% or 11% to give anyone a chance of managing it. ?
13 Feb 2026 19:56:28
No idea stokey, my memory lasts about as long as our managers ?.
12 Feb 2026 20:35:55
Let’s bow down to the few who talk down to us and ‘remember that’ ?
If you put yourself up there to be shot down, don’t cry when someone takes a pop shot - remember that fellow reds ?.
11 Dec 2025 16:55:30
Good one rogie! ?.