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29 Dec 2017 15:34:34
I was one of the fans who really wanted stability to stick with a manager, give them plenty of time to get a decent backroom staff together and to try and implement a way of playing that can work through from the youngsters to the first team. I am however struggling to see enough positives from MW - the way he plays should be worked on through the academy and I'm sure we would see results in the coming years here comes the problem!

I cannot think of any manager who has ever been successful who hasn't played to his players or collective groups strengths, the level of success doesn't matter - it could be winning the champions league, a cup or winning a relegation battle. It looks to me that we are playing to our weaknesses in an attempt to play in a way that some of our players just cannot do.

We do have some good players and if they are encouraged to play to their strengths rather than their weaknesses we could easily have an extra 6-10 points this season. Come on breadman - play to our strengths and we will all support you, keep messing and it's a downwards spiral and more fans will get on your back.

2tone

1.) 29 Dec 2017 17:05:20
But he’s not got a full squad capable of playing the football he wants. He’s not moaned about the squad that he has but it’s certainly obvious he feels he needs more of a certain type of player.

You’re right, we need stability but more importantly, and possibly above other things - we need patience and belief. No one is saying, “let’s see how this works over the next 5 years” - it’s a case of us understanding that right now, we are simply a mid table team trying to improve.

That improvement comes from a structure, a philosophy and a recruitment plan which are all on the same page.

Give this man another season and if it’s not working we look at our options. I’d also make a case for us being unable to attract top, top managers if we continue this revolving door policy.


2.) 29 Dec 2017 18:43:56
2 tone your bang on regarding players playing to strengths.Joe Worrall is a good example.When he keeps it simple he looks class but sometimes I feel he takes risks with the ball when it's just not necessary and seems out of character.I do have to give MW credit for giving some of these young men a chance.Past managers have been guilty of having a closed door policy on young players development.


3.) 29 Dec 2017 19:18:51
Ldn red - he’ll never have a full squad capable of playing the way he wants, that’s a completely different level to where we are and would cost millions!! If he isn’t careful he will ruin some of our ‘better’ players as they will forget what they are actually good at. I want to back him and give him a few years but I do want to see steady signs of improvement


4.) 29 Dec 2017 19:56:43
I’m not saying you’re wrong - but what I will point to is that in past/current seasons, teams which play a very similar style to us have competed at the top end or been promoted without spending millions.

Teams like: Sheffield United, Reading, Fulham, Bournemouth, Watford and Swansea.

MW won’t be looking to try and spend millions, he’ll be selecting players which fit his style.


5.) 29 Dec 2017 21:51:21
Bang on 2tone. Best post on here for ages


6.) 29 Dec 2017 21:53:35
Another season... You really think so?
Please lnd red enlighten us to why you think he should be given another season?
You state you want to sit down all of whom disagree with the way of the breadman... Again please enlighten us? Myself like many feel exactly like 2tone.

The inability to address many shortcomings is not how structure is built.
Structure comes from the chairman down to the staff who steward each week.
There seems to be a piece missing where Warburton is concerned his way of tactics, leaving players out in the cold and playing out position isn't a structured formula.
Yes structure takes time I agree but how much time is required.... 2,3,4 seasons?
So lnd red please with your infinite wisdom and inside knowledge tell us why Mr. Warburton is the messiah?


7.) 29 Dec 2017 23:11:04
I’m not one for enlightenment, I have an opinion, just like everyone here.

There’s certainly negatives with some of MW’s decisions, not all I’ve agreed with. But why kick us when we’re down though? Why get rid of the manager so quickly and start from scratch - AGAIN.

I feel it boils down to this. We have a young squad incapable of playing MW’s tactics on a regular basis and some fan favourites not getting as much game time as people would like. I’d be the first to say that we should’ve signed a CB and a GK in the summer, I’d like to think we tried (Hector & Federici) at least! The defence is certainly our weak point and it’s of course a shortcoming thay it wasn’t fixed back then.

The team he has now isn’t even his yet. There’s plenty of players in there which don’t suit the way Warburton wants to play which I think is largely why some players are being played out of position or not at all (Vellios). I personally feel we need to trust in a philosophy/manager and buy players which are suited to that style. It’s the only way we can make a real success of this - not by bringing in someone new and having them reshape the squad their way.

If we’ve learnt anything over the past few years, it’s that changing manager takes us at least 8months to reset. It’s been the thing which has largely held us back in recent years.

What we have now (I think), is a manager who wants to promote from within, has a clear idea of how he wants us to play and is willing to build a squad capable of doing that in his style. It doesn’t just happen in 1 window (incredibly rarely!).

Worth noting quickly - if we lose MW, we also lose our DoF, Frank McParland. Not something I’d want to do in a hurry.

Warburton aside for a minute - and remembering last season, where do people feel would be an acceptable place for us to finish based on our squad. Top half would be a lot of progress in my book.

If we can manage our expectations and take the lows with the highs, I think we’ll all be better for it.


8.) 30 Dec 2017 09:38:31
LDN Red

I agree with what you are trying to get across, but i feel 2 things are getting on most people's nerves are, we let the opposition score too easily, and there has been little sign of it being sorted, and inspite all of our possession, and odd patches of really good football the opposition mostly out play us.

It is a slow process, and we should try to be more positive, and hope for the best, but with each loss it gets harder.


9.) 30 Dec 2017 10:25:00
With you there 100%. Who here could say watching us lose is much fun?! I was at the Wednesday game and felt for much of the match we were actually miles better than them. 3 one on ones and a strong penalty shout - we were unfortunate not to go in 3-1 up at half time.

I digress.

The defence is a cause for concern and a large one at that. Most attacking possession based sides do leave themselves open at the back. We do need to be more solid but I’d wager that this is a personnel issue more than anything else.

Look at Huddersfield’s style of play (Champ and Prem), they look to out score you rather than play bland, slow football where you’d be lucky to see us score a goal. Progress is slow but my god, weren’t we a lot worse before?

The statement from the new owners and in particular the new chairman stated they wanted stability. This comes from trust and again, managing our own expectations.


 

 

14 Jan 2017 18:51:19
25 million for a club like ours which is running at a loss, has no real assets and no structure still seems an awful lot of money. Fawaz thinks it's worth double that? Whose mad? Is it fawaz, is it the yanks for spending so much time and effort on a gamble that the selller might just crumble and give it away at the last minute or is it the fans who think the club is something that any sane businessman would buy at 50 mill? I'd suggest it's all three of the above?

2tone

1.) 14 Jan 2017 19:03:50
It's a gamble but run the club right and we could be worth a hell of a lot more. just think with fawaz gone we will have the 10k back that are staying away whilst he's in charge bringing more money in. get Nigel clough or rowatt in and we will never lose another game and be promoted first season which again brings even more money in! simple


2.) 14 Jan 2017 19:25:28
Lets take it on dragons den see if peter jones will invest


3.) 14 Jan 2017 19:41:00
Nffc is a brand, and as one of only 5 English clubs to be. European champions, then yes, worth 50 mill. Famous throughout the world, and that, you can't buy. Well you can, but you know what I mean!


4.) 14 Jan 2017 19:42:28
what crystal ball you been using?


5.) 14 Jan 2017 22:31:49
None of the championship clubs make money unless they have parachute payments. The difference is a prem team costs 150M and a champ team can get brought for sub 30M. Get it right. get paid.

Our attraction is we have history and fan base. but no ground. We are in this melee every year until we either go up or down. Same as 16 of the other teams. Championship teams lose money. They operate on negative equity. Like it or not Fawaz has helped us exist. JJM would have just been the next one to spin us for another 5 years.


 

 

27 Aug 2013 01:06:47
ive been told Rhodes is going Wigan on the final day of the window? Info from a big scouse fan with good links around the nw

2tone

1.) No you just read the rumour yesterday. Wigan may however have the cash to buy him after the sale of young midfielder James McCarthy.


2.) Forest rumours

{Ed034's Note - this is a forest rumour as fans on here have been talking about him. If any fan doesn't like the rumour being posted, ignore it and move on to the next


3.) If i'd seen that rumour yesterday why would I just post it again? As I said in the op I was told this by a lpool fan who has good links around the north west.


4.) And its the same Liverpool fan who told me that I wouldn't be able to understand carragher on tv! So he us 100% correct with his info so far this season :-)

{Ed034's Note - he is awful


5.) Not according to Blackburn MD who says they will not sell to Wigan. Its going to be an interesting week to see who we get and who goes. If we could sell a few Rhodes could be affordable with the financial rules.


6.) He has a terrible tv voice which seems to get higher and higher the more animated he gets! Knows his stuff though and says it how it is

Keeno


7.) Wigan have signed Grant Holt - why would they need another?


 

 

 

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24 May 2022 12:42:53
Just got my ticket 💥🤛 Gazza - hope you got yours sorted too 👍.

2tone

1.) 24 May 2022 14:14:32
All tickets now sold.


2.) 24 May 2022 15:08:33
Will cheering from home, no sniff of a ticket but will be cheering the boys
You reds.


3.) 24 May 2022 15:13:39
Hope not. Huddersfield getting extra too. 🤔.


4.) 24 May 2022 17:25:27
Huddersfield getting extra? They haven't sold there allocated tickets yet and don't look like they will but I doubt anymore will be made available for reds supporters.


5.) 24 May 2022 18:49:53
Change of plan then. Will there be anyone left in Nottingham to watch the game and savour the atmosphere? I'm guessing the ratio of women to men will go up. 😉
Any recommendations for biggest venue, most screens etc?


6.) 24 May 2022 22:00:21
I remember in benidorm a comedian saying to my missus sit down love where are you from and who are you with?
She pointed me out at the bar and he said Nottingham?
Ten women for every man
How did you end up with her?
🤣🤣🤣.


 

 

18 May 2022 10:35:18
Fantastic night and a great result for the club and the fans. Everyone deserves it and can't wait for Wembley.
Must say I have Huge respect for billy sharp - to go through that and still post a congratulations message to the club and forest fans - saying he won't let one **** bag ruin his feelings and memories of us- Top man 👍.

2tone

1.) 18 May 2022 10:58:40
Top man is billy. Loved it that he played for us. Think he was on loan from Leeds.
My brother is a blades fan as he has lived there most of his life. He was pleased for us too and says billy sharp epitomises everything that is good in football…


2.) 18 May 2022 11:00:32
Excellent!
We finally got there in the end!


3.) 18 May 2022 11:22:25
I agree about Billy, he had a personal tragedy whilst here yet can still post such a remark . A real gent!
Moving forward, with a 1000 police / Stewards, you will not stop pitch invasions . What happened to Davies and now Billy is rising tension in the game where so much is at stake . The Sheffield manager started the kettle boiling so you might say he set the tone. There have been enough tragedies in football history, we do not want a repeat but not do we want ‘cages’ . All of us watch England play when ever and the holligans behaviour cast shame on our country . It is almost ingrained in the nature of a small group of football ‘fans’ . To run onto the pitch last night was unpreventable and yes a group of mainly youths were determined probably from the start to do this . This was the last home match and a good 25,000 of us wanted to show our thanks to the players and SC irrespective of what happens at Wembley . The players and SC would have demonstrated their thanks for our support . This was denied to us and them by a minority who stayed on the pitch for 15-20 mins . I could say a lot more but Ed may stop me posting .
Finally (Ed ) I agree if we could contact Billy Sharpe and say how ashamed we all and one idiots behavior this would be good.


4.) 18 May 2022 11:32:59
Yes top man will always have respect for him always gives 100% but glad he wasn't playing last night lol.


5.) 18 May 2022 11:36:46
Complete respect to Billy Sharp. Complete contempt for cowardly attack on him by the moron.


 

 

14 May 2022 09:57:36
There's an article in the Post about Steve Cooper giving a play off message. He is an absolute star and a perfect fit for what we needed both on and off the pitch. He has helped to turn this club around along with the owner, Dane, coaches and other staff members. We have all joined the ride and supported him to levels I haven't seen at the city ground before. He acknowledges and appreciates every staff member and every fan. Isn't it great to see and feel the benefits of hard work, honesty, integrity and togetherness.
Whatever happens over the next few days it's been a great season and it's great to be a proud Forest fan again! Enjoy the moment reds and keep positive 🤞 ⭐️⭐️.

2tone

1.) 14 May 2022 11:01:36
Summed it up nicely 2tone, they have been an absolute breath of fresh air, good times just around the corner👍.

Watching from Sunny St. Ives this weekend with a few pints of Rattler, have a great day out all those lucky to have tickets and will look forward to hearing you all on the box in the pub!


 

 

01 May 2022 01:01:18
Great day and good to meet a few again- great supporters and a pleasure to be a red.

2tone

1.) 01 May 2022 10:19:23
The Garibaldi that we wear with pride, was made in 1865.🙌🙌🙌.


 

 

30 Apr 2022 07:31:40
Looking forward to enjoying a few beers and an exciting game today. Hope there's no hangovers for ff79 or berryred3 oops sorry it's bowiered3 🤣.

2tone

1.) 30 Apr 2022 08:11:26
What's a hangover?
Ain't had one of those in 30 years.
I'm up and ready see you at 12 mate.


2.) 30 Apr 2022 08:16:55
Have a good day lads.


3.) 30 Apr 2022 10:36:58
Well i popped downstairs had my full english, back upstairs to bring it up 🤣🤣 I've had two very large hair of the dogs to put it right 👍.


 

 

 

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03 Apr 2022 17:18:04
Think it’s more that they want 50 miilion for maximon which would free up money for them to try and get Brennan. So not 50 million but would put the price up a certain amount 🤷🏻‍♂️.

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20 Feb 2022 16:34:39
Being a big or a small club is irrelevant- we are 20 odd years behind a lot of clubs who we still class ourselves as bigger than. We just need to compete and try to establish ourselves as a top division club again. We have a lot of catching up to do but ’m sure we have the right team to have a good shot at it now though. We can’t expect miracles (again) can we? 🤷🏻‍♂️ 🤞.

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22 Dec 2021 07:10:33
Sorry if that sounds all doom and gloom 🤦‍♂️
Hope you all have a great, healthy Christmas and New Year - best wishes to you all 🎄⚽️.

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22 Dec 2021 07:02:07
Money talks and that’s a lot of money. I’ve said before that the game is nothing like the game most of us fell in love with. We all have reasons for supporting certain teams - locations, players, characters, history etc. give it a few years and it will be a few more memories of the good old days.

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09 Nov 2021 13:38:26
We all know contracts are not worth anything and guarantee even less, SC’s loyalty and morals give me more hope than a worthless contract.

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25 May 2022 16:10:48
I don’t really take much notice of any media wonky but take a balanced view across what I see, read and hear. Screw all politics let’s get back on to football. Did you manage to get tickets for Sunday? Hoping to get to a pub near Wembley at 11:30 ish sink a few beers and soak up the atmosphere.

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25 May 2022 14:38:18
I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him and I wouldn’t have let him run around the block by himself let alone run the country 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣.

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25 May 2022 11:29:52
Wonky - put labour in charge and it will sort everything 👍🤣
I’m not into politics at all but one thing I do know is that you can’t trust any politician or any party - it’s a game to them all.

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24 May 2022 19:06:46
To be honest I’d be very surprised if you have to print them out - I’d have thought you would just show them on your phone and get the ticket scanned as you go in?

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24 May 2022 16:40:47
Says weds or thurs on my confirmation mate.

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