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22 Jan 2020 02:50:15
I see a lot of conversation about ffp, but we really can't have much to spend with our inflated squad what will the average wage be? About 20k a week with what 30 first team which would be 2.4 million a month no matter how well run we are that's impossible to sustain at our level.
1.) 22 Jan 2020 08:21:36
I doubt many players are on 20k per week. More like 7 to 15k. Even at that its not going to be covered by gate receipts which i think 80% of wages has to be. Ffp is a mystery ti how it is evenly monitored!
2.) 22 Jan 2020 09:20:02
Isnt previously sold players, merch sales etc all included in it too?
3.) 22 Jan 2020 10:16:07
I forgot we also got 7 million for brereton so we should be ok, I'd say we are 15 million in profit from transfers.
4.) 22 Jan 2020 10:38:55
We also got 8 million for apiah at the start of the season.
30 Dec 2019 00:27:06
Sell benalouane, hefele and retire dawson and replace them kel naismith, he looked solid and a good ball carrying defender, Gelhardt look decent too.
1.) 30 Dec 2019 14:44:04
Do you really think we should retire Dawson after a couple of bad games? Talk about knee jerk. He was playing really well and might well find his form and add his leadership to the side. Look at the impact he had on the form of Joe "he isn't good enough" Worrall!
2.) 30 Dec 2019 17:14:03
Nope not at all, worrall was always a good player in a bad team worrall was good from the off sorry but don't think dawson would influenced him that quickly build for the future anyday 36 is just old for this league and that many games, prob why his form dipped because he is knackered why pay someone 20k a week for 10 games a season.
3.) 30 Dec 2019 18:42:07
Well if you agreed that Worrall was a good player all along then you are in a minority on here as I was pilloried for saying that. But you are wrong that 36 is too old for a centre back if he stays fit.
If he doesn't play more than 20 games then I'd agree we shouldn't renew his contract but Dawson's experience will be needed later in the season especially if we pick up knocks and/ or make the play offs.
29 Dec 2018 21:41:30
For all the ak supporters please can you answer why other managers who have been in there positions the same amount of time as ak or less are doing so well and they have bought in a load of new players ect as well ie Leeds derby and so on, I have never managed a football team so maybe someone can enlighten me, I was always under the impression managers did homework on oppositions put together a game plan on the opposition's strengths and weaknesses with his assistants if this is the case why are we playing 4,2,3,1 week in week out regardless of the formation and players we are up against seems so one dimensional, even if it was 2 formations one with the ball one without just some variation to keep opposition guessing I just think his tactics have been worked out step up the pitch stop us passing 100% guarantee will stop us winning.
1.) 30 Dec 2018 03:43:17
think he's been found out over a lot of things.
2.) 30 Dec 2018 11:27:16
Farke came 14th with Norwich last season and look how they are doing now. We just need a bit of stability, sacking karanka will only disrupt the squad. Give him at least a season. He's won the champions league 3 times as a player and has got a team promoted from this league. With all due respect he knows way more about football than you ever will.
3.) 30 Dec 2018 11:53:46
And where did we finish under karanka last season then after he bought all those players in January too people seem to think this is his first season he has had 2 sets of players with the same win ratio and same carp tactics ? Being a good footballer doesn't make you a good manager so don't care what he has won he was a very good defender is that helping our defence . no, first all his supporters said don't judge till after 12 games then don't judge till Xmas now it's a whole season, I know enough about football too see that 4,2,3,1 isn't working at home yet he can't seem to work it out, pants has been shocking in most games still picked, JC should not be in team week in week out yet he is take those glasses off and see what's wrong in front of your eyes, so you agree with his same plan no matter what were up against
4.) 30 Dec 2018 19:31:06
This has been happening at forest for years though, we under perform and we get a new manager in and we sign new players and we get excited then 8 months down the line it starts all over again and everyones out for blood. Who is better suited to the job? I only mention his playing achievement because He's been at the top of his game and you should show him some respect, not many people in the world can say they've won three champions leagues, as a player I would want to learn from him. I think he gave Fox a lot of confidence. And we have got better at defending imo, the last few months havnt been the best but he's given me more hope than any of the other managers we've had. He arrived at the start of January with an awful squad, we now have depth and experience. Do you really think he is trying to sabotage the team, he wants them to play well just as much as you do. Confidence is massive in this game and having loads of fans moan for a poor dip in form isn't going to help anyone. Yes in a year's time if we are playing the same I will be on your side. I'm young, I've only supported forest since they've been a mid table championship side (Look how many players have moved on as soon as there is interest, we are not the most attractive team in the league) and maybe you've got to get your head out the clouds and accept that that's what we are. Fawaz did not help this club at all and it'll take time for those scars to heal. Patience mate.
5.) 30 Dec 2018 20:00:43
Dertwedge, You can say what you like about our manager but the fact of the matter is managers in most cases get to keep, or lose their job based on results, and league position, especially after spending more money than the club has spent for many a year.
2, i repeat 2 transfer windows and a lot of money later not only are we only 2 points better off this season compared to last season, but we have not won for a while.
The club set a standard with Warburton when they sacked him when we were 9 points away from the play offs, we are 6 points away at the moment.
Should we lose against Leeds, and Derby win then BOOM, the manager will be gone.
6.) 30 Dec 2018 21:42:52
Utter garbage sorry, not once have I disrespected him yes I've questioned his ability as a manager but not as a player but that has no bearing on managerial ability, a dip in form?
Where was the high the majority of games have been unconvincing wins or scraped draws with about 3 games where I've thought wow they were good the team was riding there luck for a while now the luck has run out and the bare bones are exposed please explain to me the progress then 2 points better off than last season still can't defend set pieces still can't score from, still can't break down teams sitting deep or defending well, still the same keeper problem, summer arrivals bar grabban and yacob have been uninspiring I just fail too see a year later a years progress yes rome wasn't built in a day but a more difference is needed simple.
03 Dec 2018 23:37:55
Is all this criticism Worrall gets justified? he was in an awful team zero protection from midfield, mancienne as a partner and silent Smith behind him what chance did the young lad stand I think he would thrive in this side.
1.) 04 Dec 2018 08:20:11
He's below par,just like Brereton and Walker. A liability.
2.) 04 Dec 2018 08:40:50
And what can you use to make that opinion he hasn't had a chance in good side any defender would of looked bad in that defence is my point one man can't make a defence
3.) 04 Dec 2018 09:57:58
A defender is there to defend the goal, what side he's in is totally irrelevant. Yes in a poorer side he may have to do more defending, but it's still defending and Worrall is just an old school, head it and hit it. He's a liability at the back, his anticipation is poor, always seems 1 second or 2 behind the game. Just like pants, if he's bought back, he will cost us goals and maybe promotion.
4.) 04 Dec 2018 10:02:15
If anything, a defender in a poor team has the chance to shine, be the one to step up and show class, Worrall never did that.
5.) 04 Dec 2018 10:26:52
Gazza
Absolute rubbish!!!
Poor JW had a useless CH partner and two poor fullbacks and a keeper who didn’t communicate. On top of that he had two useless central midfielders.
What chance did the lad have??!!!!!
Be real. . He needed to come into a good side, a bit like Dawson did when he started alongside Des Walker with Crossley behind him.
6.) 04 Dec 2018 11:12:30
Fox looked bad for three seasons trying to play centre back,all of a sudden a world beaterthis season?🤔
The defence never had the likes of colback Watson geddy or Jacob in front of them.
Worrall will be class and a future captain.
Only as good as the players around you,it's a team game not about individuals
7.) 04 Dec 2018 11:26:33
Ahh echoes of how good Brereton once was in some peoples eyes and how much of a travesty it was that we sold him. 7m doesn't look so bad now though does it. Worrall is no different, he's never shown anything to suggest he's ever going to be any other than a mediocre championship defender. People just have a blinkered vision on home grown players.
8.) 04 Dec 2018 12:24:07
Ok gazza what should we do with appiah?
Sell him quick,because according to some,if they are home grown then they are only ever going to be average at best?
England think different of Worrall and he didn't do too badly.
Too early to write off brereton yet,don't think he made a good career move there.
9.) 04 Dec 2018 13:35:53
I think GazzaRed must've found Joe Worrall in bed with Mrs GazzaRed.
IMHO
10.) 04 Dec 2018 13:39:04
Surely this is an opportunity for an under 23 player to be on the bench. Good experience. Don't forget, Colback can play at left back as well.
11.) 04 Dec 2018 14:09:41
Worrall is ok and in my opinion is a very good player. Working with Hefele and Robinson beside him to keep him in tune with what he needs to do will be a good prospect. Some of you are forgetting he was made England U21 Captain. You don't get that recognition unless you are a good player. As long as the price was low buying back Olly Burke is a no-brainer; he can terrify defences.
12.) 04 Dec 2018 14:25:26
Personally Worrall would have learned more staying here and learning in training from Dawson,he'd have had a chance to get the team at some point.
13.) 04 Dec 2018 16:15:32
FF799, I'd say it all depends how much first team action he gets at Rangers. If he plays but was 5th choice here then maybe not. I do like the idea of Dawson mentoring him, either second half of this season or next season in the Prem.
Agree with the sentiment above. He hasn't just Captained England under 21s. He has captained an England under 21 trophy winning team hasn't he? Fantastic prospect and red through and through. His detractors are full of bovine excreta.
14.) 04 Dec 2018 16:25:10
When Dawson's not injured, of course.
15.) 04 Dec 2018 16:28:31
Sorry Gazza can't disagree more defence is a unit if your partner is out of position your passed round easily if your left and right back are beaten time and again you can't defend cross after cross find your comment amazing why don't we just play one at the back then and have more attacking players if that's the case
16.) 04 Dec 2018 16:47:42
Just to be clear, Fox played as a left back but always had decent games when asked to cover at CB. Worral would not have got a look in if he stayed here this year, best thing to loan him out.
I remember a young John Terry coming to us for a season, it will do Worral a world of good.
17.) 04 Dec 2018 19:51:38
Appiah actually has some quality. When Worralls back in the team and he's being a calamity and you're all slating him,I'll be the one saying I told you so
18.) 04 Dec 2018 20:31:48
We can all be wrong though gazza,look at Darikwa,totally different player this season,magnificent on Saturday,great shot for the first and great delivery for the last,but his defending has improved dramatically as well.
It's not always how good you are,but about the confidence the team has and how they perform as a unit.
Appiah obviously is a talent,he plays for England and performs on that stage,so did Worrall and was a winner in the process,so they can see the talent,maybe that should be taken on board???
19.) 05 Dec 2018 06:59:06
Michael mancienne played for England.
20.) 05 Dec 2018 18:12:28
Give it up, GazzaRed. You're writing off a 21yo centre-half who has shown promise and it's foolish.
Even if he does turn out to be an average Championship defender, I'd rather have him here as 3rd or 4th choice than some overpaid foreign mercenary.
Lascelles is an excellent comparison. Showed good promise but never really excelled in the Forest first team on a consistent basis and no one moaned too much when he moved on to Newcastle. In his first season at Newcastle he wasn't regular and they were relegated. A few years on, he's back in the Prem and one of the first names on the turn sheet. Patience is required, especially with young defenders. Even more so if they're one of your own.
21.) 05 Dec 2018 20:42:43
Good post SSWE.
22.) 05 Dec 2018 21:23:58
Agree,not sure what the turn sheet is though??or do I??
I'm just glad the lads ok and the doctors have got him "regular" now,must have taken a load off?🤣🤣🤣🤣
23.) 06 Dec 2018 15:27:48
Sorry, should've read 'team sheet'!
24.) 07 Dec 2018 23:56:47
Worrall is as good as Lascelles in my opinion. Better than Wes Morgan was at 21! Digest that fact for a moment.
Morgan has captained a champions league team and Lascelles a Premier league one and neiother were better than Worrall at 21
03 Nov 2018 08:56:55
I see TM wants to use Bereton as a winger lol and the fans are calling the deal a waste of money, some are asking if they can pull out of the deal.
1.) 03 Nov 2018 18:33:42
Ha ha what a shocker. No thanks, we don’t want him back.
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15 Sep 2024 11:23:03
Got to be honest I thought we were setup for a draw then realised nuno made it a 30 minute game bringing Elanga and CHO on at the 60th minute and it worked a treat even if sels nearly dropped a clanger lol.
1.) 15 Sep 2024 12:32:29
Red James sels thought he’d do a bit of juggling to liven their afternoon up, , ?don’t forget the poor lambs we’re tired after international call ups, because nobody else had them, and we played long ball, I mean that winning goal, a 5yard long ball to elanga, who ran into their half, another long ball to odoi, and the longest ball of all into the back of their net, , hope you managed to dodge the p**s shower, , and am sure you had an unforgettable day,
2.) 15 Sep 2024 17:20:22
Yes I saw the long ball comments and thought exactly the same lol, even of we did what's wrong with it of it works it works Man city do it all the time Edison always has 3 ir 4 assists a season lol.
28 May 2024 19:30:33
Hi can someone more clued up than me help out please, I keep reading we have too sell due to psr but surely we have had a punishment for everything spent upto June last year so can't be punished again using the same accounts, in this years accounts we the Johnson money and the 10 mill loan fee for Mangala so we can't be that far off we have to sell all the players being mentioned in the media, its like we got relegated lol.
1.) 28 May 2024 20:34:41
Our big man may have a plan, possibly a cunning plan. As we have had players going to Greece cannot the same be in reverse, so long as what we get are worthwhile players. May be a bit naive here myself but can that happen.
Can we sell our players to the Greek club and they loan them back to us. I don't know just asking.
2.) 28 May 2024 20:57:01
It's a guessing game I'd say red James. Only the club accountants will know
All I'd say is even if we are over the limits again at least we know the punishments that are given out.
Personally I think the club will ignore it and get on with strengthening the team
It's up to the individual supporter to say it's right or wrong to do that
Great question though.
3.) 28 May 2024 22:40:24
Agreed DTP - a great question James. I'm afraid to say that I don't really have a clue about all this either - does anyone? Redsocks - I also hope the big man has a plan to overcome these issues. Maybe it is a plan so cunning that you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel?!
4.) 28 May 2024 23:02:35
Peps leaving end of next season
He knows what's coming
Another Barcelona scenario is heading his direction
Time to walk away
Personally think every club breaks the rules it's how they cover it up.
5.) 28 May 2024 23:12:14
Legless the plan has already worked
Staying in the premier was a must once you start investing heavily
Marinakis has achieved that goal and we've taken the punishment for it to achieve that goal
It gets easier the longer you stay there as your no longer judged for championship losses, which has been our issue
We've bought some very good players who's price have rocketed already
And before anyone says anything
Yes we've bought a few bad ones to
Our dealings in the loan market are the main worry as its just not worked out
To survive two years on the back of not having a team to even start a season in the premier is just a remarkable outcome.
6.) 29 May 2024 18:58:26
Good post DTP. I agree with you.
23 Oct 2022 22:00:49
Jessie Lingards numbers from Liverpool game
1 shot on target
0 from 0 successful dribbles
0 from 0 successful crosses
0 from 4 successful long balls
0 key passes
2 from 6 ground duels won
0 from 0 ariel duels won
42.9% accurate passes
Dribbled past 0
1 tackle
Possession lost 13 times
Just wow.
1.) 23 Oct 2022 22:23:11
Forest result against Liverpool one nil.
2.) 23 Oct 2022 22:40:59
Back to a whipping boy again
CARLO
3.) 23 Oct 2022 22:56:23
And the result still can't hide his performance absolutely shocking considering the effort from the other 10 and not just this game most of the season for him at least the rest of the team have had at least one good game.
4.) 24 Oct 2022 10:10:49
If lingards presence causes problems for defenders and he can pull defenders away to cause problems and create space for our advancing midfield then he is doing a job. Personally think lingard is over rated and a bit of a luxury player. His stats don’t look good and he needs a goal or two to bring out the player in him.MAYBE
22 Oct 2022 15:55:23
Great result and we played with 10 men makes even better, great performance apart from JL and Hendersons kicking lol.
16 Sep 2022 22:07:10
4 at the back and O'brien made a big difference, been hoping for 4,4,2 for a few games now our CB's just aren't fast enough to play as a 3.
1.) 16 Sep 2022 22:35:08
Agreed mate . Everyone can see it.
27 Aug 2024 18:01:05
Its more than likely a game for higher wages I think.
18 Aug 2024 19:00:03
It's a lot easier after receiving a 65m transfer fee.
21 Aug 2022 08:24:42
Think Cooper wanted him we just weren't willing to pay 20 mill.
13 Jun 2022 06:49:14
It's not just asking price it's the wages we will be offering compared to TH.
11 Jun 2022 08:34:39
It's coming out now it's not a done deal as he is reluctant to sign for TH to bench warm or be loaned out.
15 Sep 2024 17:20:22
Yes I saw the long ball comments and thought exactly the same lol, even of we did what's wrong with it of it works it works Man city do it all the time Edison always has 3 ir 4 assists a season lol.
14 Sep 2024 14:13:36
Screams setup not lose to me which never works far too many defensive players hope I'm wrong.
27 Aug 2024 18:02:29
Ot was his wage demands that made it fell apart not the asking price plus he wasn't keen on leaving London.
23 Aug 2024 22:25:46
Well if oliver skipp os 20 mill Nketiah is easy 30 mill lol.
28 May 2024 19:47:37
Keep him I say he was rushed back from and wasn't match fit well documented the forest medical staff well and truly messed up with him.