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05 Oct 2025 16:05:22
Stop blaming the players and start blaming our owner.
Marinakis met Postecoglu in July at a Greek awards/ draw ceremony i believe.
This is after he ran on pitch and berated Nuno at the end of last season.
This is after he hired Edu.
This is after Edu started sanctioning £200m of new signings, which one assumes Nuno had little say in. How are they working out?
No wonder Nuno got hacked off. Was he so wrong to say he didn't have the same relationship with Mr M as before?
This may go down as the worst managerial change in Prem history. Can anyone think of a worse one?
Mr M has to make a change and it needs to be a good one. But who knows what the players are thinking and who knows who comes next.
Mr M has done a lot of good in his time of course - but he now needs to step up and make a change and start a process of renewal at the club.
1.) 05 Oct 2025 21:17:09
With apologies I should have asked for that to go on Banter site.
2.) 06 Oct 2025 05:48:20
Marinakis is like Trumpty but without the dementia.
3.) 06 Oct 2025 12:58:33
ForestCAgen, quite remarkable turn around by Mr Marinakis, from giving Nuno a new contract, then a break down in communication between the two in 7 weeks, it may cost us a season fighting for our Premier league place?.
4.) 06 Oct 2025 17:48:33
The contract gave Nuno the opportunity to say what he actually thought knowing he, d be expensive to sack, but M with more money than sense decided he show who is Boss.
Act in haste repent at leisure.
5.) 08 Oct 2025 21:23:32
I blame the players who were already here and whoever didn't recruit sufficient cover in defence. The new manager and Nuno made mistakes (we've been sh14 since April 1st last season) but the form of our key players is nowhere (MGW, Wood, CHO and recently Sels) and the new boss doesn't even have half of the defence that Nuno was lucky didn't get injured last season.
SO who didn't sign what we need? Who is not capable of doing a job this season like put a ball in the net? Who gives the ball away all the time (I'll give you a clue: It definitely isn't Ange and is MGW). Who caused the injuries to our defence (CLUE: NOt Ange).
I'm sick of hearing the hate that is based on Tabloid BS. Grow a pair and admit what the real problems are at Forest!
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24 Jan 2026 17:08:47
This is going to be a tough watch over the next few months.
What worries me is that the squad look shattered and a bit disillusioned. I know they get paid a fortune but there has been so much change (turmoil? ) at the club anyone would feel a lack of morale. I know we do as fans much of the time too. So will they.
In the first season we stayed up on Taiwo’s goals and Cooper’s love. Let’s hope the leaning tower from Naples can be our man.
We are something like 6/ 7th biggest net spenders since our promotion. For every good purchase there’s been 4 or 5 that appear to have made no difference (yet cost us on PSR massively). What has our strategy been?
I think Nuno will keep WH up - I always have. God knows what happened at the end of his time but he helped spearhead our best season in 30 years before Mr M came on the pitch and started dining with Ange at awards dos. Such a shame. Maybe it was only ever going to last for a year or two. He is a v good manager and they have quality attacking players.
So it’s up to the coach and the players (and SD didn’t sign any of the players). We have enough quality in certain areas but who knows. If you don’t score, you go down.
What I do suspect is this…. It will be a disaster economically if we get relegated. I’d doubt many have relegation clauses. I don’t mean sellable assets like Anderson etc, I mean the lesser lights still on 50-100k/ w.
I also know this. Nothing will consistently improve until the club is run differently. I pray it does but I’m not holding my breath.
Good luck to the guys tomorrow.
1.) 24 Jan 2026 18:18:45
Good post forest.
2.) 24 Jan 2026 20:08:32
Spot on Agen. It all went south when that head case Marinakas gave Nuno a dressing down on the pitch. Nuno will have the last laugh when we go down and West Ham survive.
3.) 24 Jan 2026 20:49:39
You are right BL.
We have the 9th highest wage bill in league.
Brentford’a is the 20th.
How you run the club - in every sense - is what decides the outcomes most of the time.
4.) 24 Jan 2026 20:55:11
So what do you suggest then balloons?
Get rid of our owner? "The headcase"?
5.) 24 Jan 2026 21:14:25
Spot on, Big Larry. 100% in agreement ?.
6.) 24 Jan 2026 22:09:00
Well give up your seat rhr and move on cus the owner isn't, have you forgot where we where before he took over?
I haven't and been to Wembley twice and seen the city ground packed week in and week out.
So let's get rid of the bank and go back to fighting relegation in the championship at least youll be happy we haven't got a head case owning the club to moan about, that's what some of you are calling for
Bet Sheffield Wednesday fsns would love the backing of our owner.
23 Jan 2026 07:30:43
I watched last night and I would say that is in the top 5 worst performances since we have been back in the Prem. Easily. I couldn’t believe how bad we were.
Whilst some had a bad game, we have spent several hundreds of £m - unbelievable sums - and are reliant on about 5/ 6 players with seemingly no real depth anywhere else of note.
I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again, nothing will change until the club is run differently, by which I mean totally differently, in my view.
I know some people are in awe of our owner and love to say ‘be careful what you wish for’ when anyone dares to criticise - and I don’t debate the good things he has done, and the sums involved - but the stewardship and running of the club appear (from the outside looking in) to be below the standards needed for staying in the Prem (let alone consistently doing well).
I won’t defend Dyche for the sake of it, but he has inherited the worst summer transfer window one could imagine. I can not believe how poor some of those players look at time.
But that may be unfair to them? These new players are on their 3rd manager in a few months, were signed by a head of football (Wilson) who himself has left and it was orchestrated by Edu, who may not last himself.
What is morale like behind the scenes with so many changes?
For every manager you see leave, there has always been changes in other staff and eventually you just have likely failure.
In the near term the price of this is bad results and the inability to buy a decent striker in this window due to PSR. In the medium term, we will probably (in my view) get relegated and the club will go down with unworkable debt. At least that’s my honest, if negative, view. I’m fed up with it.
You may not like me saying that but it feels like it is going to happen. If we don’t get relegated this year, it is highly likely it will happen next year based on what is in front of us.
The constant change at the club and wierd decisions is what has brought us here. It’s a huge shame and arguably a huge missed opportunity, but without a top to bottom change in how things are done, we should enjoy our stay in the Prem and Europe whilst we can.
1.) 23 Jan 2026 08:04:29
Agen that is an absolutely superb post mate. Hits the nail on the head. I don’t think we will go down though. But the recruitment and instability at the club is dire.
Last night ( and other occasions) was a case of reaping what you sow.
2.) 23 Jan 2026 08:11:03
If we do go down we could be financially crippled with players on high wages and their value will plummet. Profitability will drop as well. Get Dyche gone before its to late.
3.) 23 Jan 2026 08:26:41
Dave 99 no we won’t we will sell MGW Anderson, murrillo Williams sels Aina CHO etc, and go down with parachute payments.
4.) 23 Jan 2026 09:35:49
That's OK stevie but if we go down we won't get half as much money fir them players.
5.) 23 Jan 2026 10:09:07
Skegs it depends mate, I think Murillo and Anderson would cause a bidding war, we would have enough not to be in financial trouble.
6.) 23 Jan 2026 10:31:08
I’ll just say one thing…. Dyche has been here for 3 months. The best manager we ever had, Cloughie, had a much worse half season than Dyche so far when he was appointed.
On this basis, some of you lot on here would have got rid of the great man and foregone the 18 years of glory that followed.
To a large extent it doesn’t matter what any of us think, it’s down to our trigger happy and erratic owner.
My own view is that any manager should be in post for at least one ( and preferably two) transfer windows and a pre season to work with an in place squad.
Dyche has had none of this and BC took a season and a half before he worked his magic. People forget, there were some absolutely dire performances, on occasion, even under a genius like him.
Luckily for us, the commitee gave him time and chose to remember his Derby days rather than his Brighton and Leeds stints….
09 Jan 2026 22:33:59
Well done Wrexham, hats off to a great effort by them.
This is our net spend below (league position in brackets) in the 4 seasons since we got promoted. Think it puts us in top 6 in Prem over that time.
25/ 26: £-97.28m
24/ 25: £-15.58m (7th)
23/ 24: £-42.28m (17th)
22/ 23: £-167.48m (16th)
For sure we have signed some good players in that - MGW, CHO, Murillo, EA, Wood, some others - but so much has been wasted.
I know there are a lot of people who say ‘be careful for what you wish for’ as it can worse (Fawaz, Scholar, others we remember). But the simple fact is the club is not seemingly well run. We are also a club people now seem to almost laugh at.
Is it any surprise that many of the apparently worst run clubs, end up getting the weakest results? Wolves, West Ham, Us, Spurs, MUtd.
I’m just so fed up with it. It’s all such a waste of an opportunity. We have all waited so long. What is our plan?
We may well stay up - just - but we are totally reliant on about 5/ 6 quality players + we have an owner who is never likely to stop moving on coaches, hiring and firing, maybe even marching onto the pitch again. It doesn’t help.
It’s such madness. Why oh why can we not just have a plan, some stable, senior club management, and a constant approach.
Don’t even get me started on the bulk of the summer signings.
Am I enamoured by Dyche - no I am not.
But nothing will really change, until our whole approach changes. Everything else is noise.
1.) 09 Jan 2026 23:36:09
Good post pal
It's annoying isn't it
But we were never ready for Europe
List the two most influential players from last season and their goals and assists
Elanga and wood
The players bought in just don't get the pace of the premier, bakwa ndoye?
They both want to. play in their own time
Thise two will never hack the premier with that attitude
Dyche hasn't a clue tactically and is by passing the best midfielders we have had
Jesus has to fight a losing battle every game with those tactics
Premier survival is all that matters now
We'll be out of Europe soon and Dyche fate will be sealed along with stone and woan and cheerio ho to them
Re group in the summer with a new coach who won't be English.
2.) 10 Jan 2026 03:52:02
Good measured post Agen.
03 Jan 2026 20:02:55
Nearly all the chaos and the results we are therefore seeing, come from Mr M’s brand of ownership in my view.
The constant upheaval and constant guessing. Is anyone else just a tad fed up of it all?
Throwing £200m at players and somehow making the squad worse. Hiring Edu. Hiring Ange after meeting him in public whilst Nuno was still manager. Firing Ange. Hiring Clattenberg. Going on the pitch to berate Nuno.
In Yr 1 we just stayed up because of Awoniyi’s heroics, Last year we did well partly due to Wood’s unbelievable efficiency in front of goal.
This year? We have clearly lacked goal threat all season (not addressed in the £200m somehow! ). The morale is low, all this change would irritate a saint at times so no wonder the players are all over the place mentally. We are already on our third manager in 5 months and it all seems self-induced madness to me. 4th manager incoming if we lose to Wet Ham?
£40m on Strand Larsen? We probably will and god knows if that will be good money spent. PSR is not our friend.
It’s all just such a mess, a self-inflicted mess, and I for one am just fed up with it all…. Oh for the quiet life.
1.) 03 Jan 2026 20:37:28
It’s never boring though, just image winning all the time.
2.) 03 Jan 2026 20:37:43
It's a self inflicted shambles Agen. No wonder dtp is trying to swap his season ticket for Segs recliner ?.
3.) 03 Jan 2026 20:48:08
I'm always there and would never swap, that's the difference between us
Seen far worse over 60 years and still kept going.
4.) 03 Jan 2026 20:50:17
ForestCAgen that is the most brilliant post I think I’ve ever seen on here mate.
To reinforce what you have so superbly said, have a look at the game today….
One side was 3rd from top, one was 4th from bottom
One side is sensibly run as a club, one is in a permanent state of chaos
One side has made good steady signings to strengthen the squad, not necessarily expensive either. One has a scattergun approach, massive turn over in players and variable quality.
One side spends money wisely, the other spaffs a lot of it up the wall with either poor quality incomings or players who never pull on the red shirt
One selects a good manager then gives him over 3 years at the helm, one chooses the 3rd manager this season then wonders why some fools are calling for his removal after less than 3 months
One set of owners performs its task quietly and efficiently and one owner does the opposite and wants to constantly be the centre of attention and makes a series of rash decisions and actions, leading to demoralized players and staff.
And makes us a laughing stock in the process.
One club is playing in the European Championship this season and probably top 4 for next season. One club is relying on SD to do another in a long series of successful rescue operations against the odds
Why are you surprised?
5.) 03 Jan 2026 21:11:36
I don’t agree that he wants to be centre of attention. Dyche is a poor manager, the only foolish thing was employing him in the first place.
6.) 03 Jan 2026 21:12:16
You'll probably find Villa are in the same European competition as us. ?.
7.) 03 Jan 2026 21:15:49
Great post StokeyRed.
I never thought we would stay long in the Prem because of this approach. Outside of the football squad, we have lots of incomings, outgoings etc too (Wilson recently, others). Never any stability….
8.) 03 Jan 2026 21:54:27
Great post ForestCAgen. You describe it exactly as it is. A self-inflicted mess.
9.) 03 Jan 2026 22:22:59
I must congratulate on the post because of the response. However, just think without big M's input/ income, still having Fawaz not paying bills on time, signing Arab players we've never heard of. Be careful what what you wish for, or you become a certain age and all you do for the rest of your life is moan moan moan, about how great things used to be.
20+ years out the prem, loving going to and losing to Oldham etc. This season is becoming testing to say the least but come on we've had much worse.
10.) 03 Jan 2026 22:38:21
I have to say that this a great thread, with superb posts from both Agen and Stokey.
Nail, head, hit. Couldn't be summed up better gents.
11.) 03 Jan 2026 22:58:49
Now that's a post MV and bang on the money.
12.) 04 Jan 2026 06:38:45
Dyche will take us back to the Championship. He needs sacking sharpish.
03 Jan 2026 13:31:44
I rarely post on here as tempers flare, but I have always felt that our Owner needs accountability at time - more than he seems to get on here.
You can blame Edu if you want but frankly even if he did decide the signings, the point i why have we spent £200m? What a catalogue of errors. Why?
Who is even looks half decent? Perhaps Hutch? Jesus sometimes?
We were obviously short of quality full back cover and up front. Even before Wood got injured.
Our owner is one step forward, one step back. For every proclamation such as naming the stand in Robertson’s name (positive idea) there is one thing quickly which makes little sense (complaining about VAR).
This is an owner who cares - I get that - but running onto the pitch to confront our manager of the time in front of everyone, dining and appointing Ange, signing players when Nuno was still here, but which were inherited by Ange, hiring Clatternburg.
It has to stop. We need some cool, calm heads. We’ve now lost Wilson and other senior management figures too. Do we have any?
None of this is ideal. I sound negative I get that, but I am fed up with trying to feel positive. My gut has always told me we won;t stay in the Prem long because everything is just too chaotic.
p. s. I like Dyche but don't rule out a new manager in the next few weeks if results stay as they have been.
1.) 03 Jan 2026 13:51:10
Good post Forestc.
I don't think any manager/ Coach would be able to get anything from Forest!
It stems deeper than just the management.
For all the good Marinakis has done his arrogance and hot headedness will the the Club's downfall.
24 Jan 2026 20:46:10
Why would Silva go to Forest? Genuinely. Zero chance.
We have the 9th highest wage bill and the 17th team. Brentford tomorrow have the lowest wage bill in the league by the way. Just over half of ours.
05 Oct 2025 21:17:09
With apologies I should have asked for that to go on Banter site.
24 Jan 2026 20:49:39
You are right BL.
We have the 9th highest wage bill in league.
Brentford’a is the 20th.
How you run the club - in every sense - is what decides the outcomes most of the time.
03 Jan 2026 21:15:49
Great post StokeyRed.
I never thought we would stay long in the Prem because of this approach. Outside of the football squad, we have lots of incomings, outgoings etc too (Wilson recently, others). Never any stability….
14 Oct 2025 21:06:01
Feels OK to point out the positives and also the negatives. If you want our Chairman to show his ‘passion’ by marching onto the field to berate our excellent manager, to hire Mark Clattenberg, to hire Edu, to sack Nuno, to hire Ange…. be as supportive as you want.
The only reason Ange hasn’t gone is because he was clearly Mr M’s own hire…. and that’s what makes this period difficult.
Will he stick or twist? If we twist and end up with Dyche, how will you feel about it then?
02 Oct 2025 21:52:47
Cannon and Ball? Hue and Cry? Dumb and Dumber? Hardcastle and McCormack?
20 Sep 2025 15:54:44
Let’s hope we only concede one.