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12 Oct 2022 10:18:34
Rutland hit the nail on the head in his post yesterday - in most cases we have not signed the right quality players for this league. Mr M has obviously come to the same conclusion with is sacking of the recruitment team. There are some signings that I am sure will come good. MGW, for example, is a young player who is with the perfect coach to bring out the best in him. Nico Williams has a lot of developing to do that will take time, but could eventually be another good buy. O'Brian and Tofollo both have the work ethic to make progress at this level. To my mind, the jury is still out on the rest. But we are where we are. The question is whether SC can pull a side together to keep us up. Villa was a start.

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1.) 12 Oct 2022 11:35:36
Williams MGW, Obrein and toffolo cost a grand total of 55 million though and we weren't in a position to spend 20 on a rookie right back with potential to be honest.
Then you've got the add ons for MGW.


2.) 12 Oct 2022 12:01:05
If we do go down the Deadwood stage isn't as bad as previous scatter gun spending seasons.
Loans. Henderson. Lodi. Bade.
End of contract. Lingard. Smith. Colback. Arter. Taylor. Dragar. Cafu.
That's ten straight of the books then we have all the not good enoughs to sell
Mighton. Laryea . Ojeda and a few of the U23s who are struggling to make the step up.
Should leave us with a tight championship unit and we can get 5 loans in again if needed and slowly shift the players who have clearly shown they are not prem quality. ?.


3.) 12 Oct 2022 12:39:31
Nobody from the 23 or fringe players will get the chance to step up with all the dross in front of them ,I imagine they feel very down knowing their chance will probably never come at Forest .
CARLO


4.) 12 Oct 2022 15:57:48
Didn’t I read somewhere that Arter got another year added to his contract because we got promoted? Even though he had absolutely nothing to do with it.


5.) 12 Oct 2022 23:12:54
Red Balloons. 9 games, clearly not PL quality? Most of them with negligible minutes. Do you not remember Henri at Arsenal? Patience sir, please. If we're giving Cooper time, do the players not deserve the same?


6.) 12 Oct 2022 23:14:48
Carlo. More chance with Forest or any other PL club? Indicative of modern day football, I'm sorry to say.


7.) 14 Oct 2022 12:35:18
I wouldn’t say if we go down, don’t you mean when we go down in 7 months time, that’s a certainty.
Wasn’t worth waiting 23 years for was it………I don’t think so.


 

 

05 Oct 2022 10:53:00
Some things are now clear. The recruitment team have signed a number of players that are not Premier League quality. Some look to have potential - Aurier, Mangala being two - others are not showing the basic skills required to be playing at this level. The recruitment team should go along with Murphy who carries the ultimate responsibility. But if SC, who is widely regarded (not just in Nottingham), as being one of the brightest coaches in English football at the moment can't get a tune out of the squad, who can? Stick with him, get rid of the recruitment team and give SC the final say on incoming signings. It might not save us this season (and with this squad I doubt anyone can) but it would give us a firm base for another successful go in the championship next season.

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1.) 05 Oct 2022 11:04:53
This is the point I was making earlier is the recruitment team bringing these players in for forest or for forest and olypiocos in mind I would doubt Murphy would of had owt to do with half of these I think Murphy as done a good job last season at forest and previously at Barnsley if we get rid of him expect more crap from abroad.


2.) 05 Oct 2022 12:16:53
I don’t disagree Skegs - the problem is that the workings of recruitment at the club are not transparent. If Murphy has the final say as Chief Exec then he is as culpable as the recruitment team. If he doesn’t have the final say has the recruitment team had complete autonomy to sign who they want? Either way they have got it wrong and should pay the price.


3.) 05 Oct 2022 12:27:49
Thinking about going to the city ground to do my one man protest……. Steve cooper must (NOT) be sacked.
The chopping and changing of managers has to stop and has to stop now, as Steve Cooper is one of the best managers we’ve had……. give him time to sort out this mess and by the sounds of things most of it is not of his own making.
IN STEVE COOPER I TRUST.


4.) 05 Oct 2022 13:23:52
Marinakis is a hot head and doesn’t care about ppl. If sacking cooper is a means to an end he will do it in the blink of an eye. Don’t waste your bus fare jolly. As for cooper being a great coach he’s had a month with these players to work on the basics, set pieces etc. what we saw against Leicester was rinse and repeat, clueless at either end in set pieces. At no point did we play tight creating triangles for fluid pass and move, these are all coaching issues. We turn attack into defence and play aimless balls down the wings. Sorry but this buck stops with cooper. He won’t play toff or surridge and has no faith in obrien. So where you might think recruitment quality is poor he plays Lodi who has been part of a 16 goal collapse and repeats the same mistakes. Sorry chaps these are all coopers choices and decisions and until he comes out and says otherwise it’s his weakness and downfall…


5.) 05 Oct 2022 13:27:33
And another thing, toffolo is probably the only one who can head a ball, he has exceptional Ariel abilities none of our defenders have this.


6.) 05 Oct 2022 15:58:19
So what your saying rotland is that
Marinakis is useless and should go and Cooper is not very good either and the players are all crap. ??

FOR SALE ONE BADLY RUN FOOTBALL CLUB WITH USELESS PLAYERS AND A NOT VERY GOOD COACH AND WE don't OWN THE GROUND
OFFERS IN THE REGION OF 300 MILLION

Be very careful for what you wish for rotters.


7.) 05 Oct 2022 16:43:07
Well said 79……. I have complete faith in Steve cooper to turn things around, we need to support our club not bad mouth it……. I think it’s the players who deserve the criticism not Marinakis or Steve cooper.
Stand strong and stand proud reds Steve cooper is going nowhere.
IN STEVE COOPER I TRUST AND BELIEVE IN.


8.) 05 Oct 2022 17:15:22
I speak as I see 79 and no matter how low quality the players are drills and organisation are a given, vardy blind sided us 3 times no excuses. I’m also giving an alternate view it’s not all down to the board and recruiters it’s coopers choice to blackball toffolo and surridge and his call to not trust obrien. Sticking with Lodi is just unbelievable, suicide. Try explaining why our best signing is in Greece and he was defo a cooper want….


9.) 05 Oct 2022 18:50:23
Yep but you don't like one single thing about forest. ?.


10.) 05 Oct 2022 19:38:53
Your out of order 79 you seem like ginger in not reading and understanding posts


 

 

 

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06 Nov 2022 06:43:51
VAR is ruining the game for me. I have found myself not celebrating goals when they go in because you know that if VAR finds someone picking their nose on the half way line they will rule it out.

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25 Oct 2022 18:35:12
If he keeps covering the miles he did on Saturday he won’t look over weight Rogie!

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23 Oct 2022 13:09:17
No abuse from me Retford. We all know what he can do as a player the only question for me is whether his heart is in it. Yesterday, for the first time, it looked like it was. If he can keep that level up you could well be right.

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22 Oct 2022 10:15:26
You have a big job on today Scouse. I don’t envy you! They are notoriously poor starters this season so we need to catch them early and get something on the scoreboard.

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12 Oct 2022 15:57:48
Didn’t I read somewhere that Arter got another year added to his contract because we got promoted? Even though he had absolutely nothing to do with it.

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