02 Jul 2022 14:40:05
Anybody been watching Sherwood ( on the TV not the Reds mascot)? I ve generally been impressed though I'm not sure there is the continuing anger and social division from the Miners Strike all those years ago. I policed it for a year and lived in Underwood, a pit village during the troubles. I think the fictional mining town of "Ashfield" (filmed in Newstead) wasn't torn apart by the strike as, like 90 % of Nottinghamshire miners were working and anti Scargill. It's a top class cast with the likes of David Morissey, Lesley Manville. Philip Glenister and Alan Armstrong. I was impressed by the efforts they had gone to to replicate the Nottingham accent but disappointed when the Alan Armstrong character refers to Trevor Francis playing for "Notts" Forest! ? Grrrr!

1.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 16:25:36
There might have been 20 years and it’s probably tried to contextualise the theory of damage that was done to people with the dismantling of the working classes in the quest to establish capitalism by wiping out a way of life, it’s a theory with believable merit because removing the way of life leaves nowhere for its politics to exist as an alternative as once it’s all gone, it can’t really be recreated .

2.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 16:28:10
Think you’d be surprised Stokey mate about bitterness and division with regard to 1984 strike.

I come from 4th generation mining family and lived in Nottinghamshire all my life am 67 now.

I’ve got mates and relations who barely speak to each other anymore because of the strike nearly 40 years on

Go to villages in North Notts now and bring up the subject even now and the feelings will still run high Thatcher is hated there as much as Yorkshire.

It was a good series but reopened a lot of old wounds particularly the referrals to the UDM?.

3.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 16:58:30
I think Notts Forest was used more to highlight that Alun Armstrong's character hailed from Yorkshire rather than Nottinghamshire. My father was at Creswell pit during that time so remember it well.

4.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 17:03:15
Good to see ya back munmad mate ?.

5.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 17:21:58
Cheers Bowie.

6.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 17:48:21
I remember the miner's coming into gelding comps canteen.

7.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 17:51:11
Return of the Munmad. Mbe Soh and 3 at the back is reborn. ? welcome back mate. Its been to long ?.

8.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 18:38:53
Welcome to the party!

9.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 18:50:37
Cheers lads been in Canada visiting my brother.

Happy with the signings so far In Cooper and Murphy we trust

Got my way on 3 at the back Mbe Soh is still work in progress?.

10.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 19:52:01
My 1st wifes relatives keep asking me to visit them over there munmad, medicine hat. I believe it's near some army base. Really does look such a beautiful country. Malcolm the mountie that's me ?.

11.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 19:55:28
I was a fitter at the pit in 1984 went on strike we all went on strike but Scargal didn't trust us and sent his flying pickits to bully us to threaten us, didn't work . But he was spot on about Thatcher just went about it the wrong way they were ready for the strikes, nothings changed Johnson thinks he's ready for the railway worker's good luck to him.

12.) 02 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 20:49:19
And good to see you redbrad my friend, the lot of ya out there must remember fans opinions etc are always going to differ. But we all think were right. Remember the golden quote on here. -we all want the same thing, band of brothers/ sisters. Anyway off to watch for your eyes only. Only because it was for me best ever bond theme ? and sheena Easton wasnt a tube station in london, but a decent singer ?.

13.) 03 Jul 2022
02 Jul 2022 23:42:40
Scargil must have come gift wrapped to thatcher, he did everything she needed him to do .

14.) 03 Jul 2022
03 Jul 2022 01:06:26
Redbrad, I was at Welbeck in 84, two thirds of the workforce came out on strike straight away. But as we know Scargill wouldn't put it to a vote and that number dwindled. The man made great points and was right about the future, but he had no idea how to unify his members. Miners always had great comradeship, friends for life, but the strike changed all that. So 40 years on we still go away to matches in South Yorkshire and get called by teenagers who haven't a clue and wouldn't have lasted five minutes down a coal mine. Sherwood, the program, was a bit far fetched but throughout the coalfields memories still simmer and linger to this day.

15.) 03 Jul 2022
03 Jul 2022 12:53:12
Great posts Munmad and 2Star. I also come from a long line of miners on both my Mum and Dads side. My great grandad on my Dads side survived the First World War as a stretcher bearer only to die whilst underground of a heart attack at the old Radford pit. Both my Grandads succumbed to lung problems caused by the conditions underground which is why my Dad broke the family’s tradition by being a welder at Raleigh all his working life. I felt a lot of sympathy for the striking miners and the dozen or so I arrested during the course of the strike were all decent law abiding men driven in extreme circumstances to break the law. Likewise the working miners were going about their lawful business and going to work to feed their families like all of us!
I bow to your experience of the continued division all these years later. There’s a great line in the Sherwood that in the old dying pit villages there’s nothing else to do except remember!
Belfast, mate, that’s a great point you make about the Alun Armstrong character saying “Notts” Forest to show he’s an outsider from Donny I think.
I’m never convinced about “spy cops “ and Government conspiracy theories as they can’t even keep Downing Street p”ss ups secret. Also they didn’t need to go to all that trouble to foster confrontation because King Arthur had been doing that for 20 years prior to 1984.
I guess that’s why it’s billed as TV drama rather than TV documentary. Great show and great points made on here ????.

16.) 03 Jul 2022
03 Jul 2022 16:04:07
That’s a good point stokey, they can’t hold their own p****, I think it’s more understanding that thatchers consciousness wanted rather than some kind of espionage going on . I’m not sure she’ll have needed to infiltrate communities to understand the working class culture and beliefs were the opposite of the Thatcherism dogma - it just adds a bit of interest to think it did .

Provoke a war, 100% I believe she did as you knew Scargill would behave in the way he did which I’m afraid handed her victory in the war she undoubtedly provoked ., I don’t she choose to miners becomes the spy intelligence told her to do it . She choose the miners to provoke a war with because scargill was always going to react like he did and prove every day why the unions had to be disarmed .