02 Jan 2024 20:11:37
Worrying reports tonight that the Premier League are looking at us over financial fair play. Shame given some of the dross we have paid out for -I know we sold Johnson but it could be a serious matter for us.
1.) 03 Jan 2024
03 Jan 2024 06:51:49
They may stop us getting anymore players, which is not such a bad thing?.
2.) 03 Jan 2024
03 Jan 2024 07:54:37
The Premier League will take Chelsea's and City's points deduction and give it to us and the Toffee's.
3.) 03 Jan 2024
03 Jan 2024 09:29:07
Could effect a potential Navas loan?
4.) 03 Jan 2024
03 Jan 2024 11:54:34
The PL is looking at everyone, it's the annual check of club accounts and we (and every other club) will find out if we've been good boys or not on 14th January. It's only the press that are targetting Forest as 'most likely', no the PL.
5.) 03 Jan 2024
03 Jan 2024 14:08:01
I think we'll probably be OK:-
A few points.
We spent around 85m on wages last season; this excludes any income we received from players going out on loan.
Our liability on amortised transfer fees for last season was around 50m, you can add another 5m on top of that for loan fees.
That comes to around 140m
Our earnings from the PL will be a minimum of 114m
Our earnings from gate receipts will be around 30m, with another couple of million for the cup run.
We should have cleared another 5m from commercial rights and another 2m for additional corporate earnings.
I would guess that our earnings will be at least 150m - that would give a 30m margin of error - 10m plus the 20m we are allowed to lose
The Premier League allows any losses directly caused by the c.v. to be discounted from FFP calculations. Forest have previously said that the adverse impact of c.v. was £16.7million across 2019-20 and 2020-21.
Where we do have a problem is promotion bonuses for the year we went up. We didn't budget for these, so probably went outside the limit that season. Will we be sanctioned for that? If so, I'd say it is unlikely to be a 10 point deduction effectively for getting promoted unexpectedly.
6.) 03 Jan 2024
03 Jan 2024 15:10:47
Interesting analysis RC. I've read that our championship losses used up our 'allowance'. £13 million per season and £35 million for first PL season, we overspent by £61 million before promotion.
Crux will be, what have we spent and generated in our first season back?
It would appear we're not allowed any losses, so BJ sale could be crucial. I like Forest in the news but prefer if it was footballing issues.
7.) 03 Jan 2024
03 Jan 2024 22:31:21
Brennan Johnson transfer fee was 'pure profit'. Which apparently is quite important when factored into FFP. Not totally sure, though, as I've not really looked into that side of it all.
8.) 04 Jan 2024
04 Jan 2024 08:44:55
Accounts for 2022/ 23 ended June, Johnson was sold in September so won't be included in the accounts.
Forest will argue they kept him beyond June to claim an extra £10m+ on his transfer fee.
Think it's going to be tight. Hopefully Big M has a few contacts.
9.) 04 Jan 2024
04 Jan 2024 16:48:39
Steve, the big man does have contacts but unfortunately they’re all in Greece mate! ??.
10.) 08 Jan 2024
08 Jan 2024 17:07:18
Eric Dier offered to Forest on loan apparently. sounds like rubbish to me!