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26 Sep 2023 10:30:13
Thanks for all your replies about MGW people, nice to see that we can have a sensible debate about things Nottingham Forest, WITHOUT slagging each other off.
Sorry lads must sound like a F###ing school teacher.
1.) 26 Sep 2023 13:02:18
Was wondering what the Clough and Taylor approach to MGW would be. Clough would probably be slagging him off publicly and making him make tea. Taylor would then go and put his arm round him tell him how good he was and to go out there and prove everyone wrong!
2.) 26 Sep 2023 14:07:49
Spot on there young man, trouble is nowadays Mc most players would want to walk away after getting a rollicking from a coach/ manager, spoiled brat’s with to much power and money.
3.) 26 Sep 2023 14:48:25
You could rollock them and pay them bonuses for results, which clough and Taylor did, it wouldn't work in the modern game though
The players and agents hold all the aces now and they wouldn't be in charge of recruiting players like they were.
4.) 26 Sep 2023 15:48:14
Rashford had to get his spare Roll, s out today, makes me wanna weep!
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CARLO.
5.) 26 Sep 2023 16:09:52
He's a rolls Royce socialist carlo does tremendous work for underprivileged kids
Surprised you haven't come across him you being a champagne drinking socialist ??.
6.) 26 Sep 2023 17:54:04
I see johno showed his worth at the weekend missed 2 sitters son showed him how to finish though think we got a great deal for him think spurs paid 40 million to much ???.
7.) 26 Sep 2023 18:11:04
Which ever way you look at it, he, s paid far too much!
John Prescott only got 2 Jags and he was deputy PM!
CARLO.
8.) 26 Sep 2023 18:57:48
DTP and Carlo
On the rare occasions when I drink champagne my toast is Francis Bacons famous line
“Champagne for my real friends and real pain for my sham friends”! Cheers ?!
9.) 26 Sep 2023 19:19:17
You can say that about people who play with a computer all day and make a fortune or most other sports people carlo
We live in a world now where ordinary young people can become very rich, be it sports wise or academic, nothing wrong with that, you can't live in the past.
10.) 26 Sep 2023 19:22:54
Some people can be working class and rich, it gives people hope that anything is possible without things like football, music film and the free market any one can succeed - that’s a good thing right? Money doesn’t always mean pompous, snob, posh, elitest private school Tory like it once did.
Look at the Gallagher brothers, as working class as a miners lamp but very, very rich. I agree that the very rich should pay more tax but I think preventing them earning it brings down the concept of stopping it from only being available to the chosen few.
11.) 26 Sep 2023 23:13:37
Totally agree 2 star far better than living in a Communist state society "where everyone's equal? "
Except the ones running the gig.
12.) 27 Sep 2023 09:43:48
Are you in training to be an influencer 79?
There’s good money to be made.
CARLO.
13.) 27 Sep 2023 13:35:37
You echo my thoughts entirely DTP.
High earners should pay more tax though, for instance a footballer won’t decide not to be a footballer in this country because they have to pay more tax
Remember the brexit Furore? The big businesses will leave, blah, blah, blah. They didn’t and they wouldn’t if their loop holes were cut off, I’m not saying crucify them, just make it fairer. The country is dropping to pieces around us, someone needs to act.
London is bankrupt like every other city - it’s just covered up and shouldn’t be, I’m not a socialist but I’m anti - London as the only barometer of UK plc and the general state of the nation, London is bankrolled and is not a fair representative of this country.
14.) 27 Sep 2023 20:04:29
You can get a jab for that from the doctors carlo.
25 Sep 2023 17:09:19
Now fellow posters, how do you feel about having a proper, truthful, honest, no pi## taking debate about M. G. W. I no just bringing this up will get me in deep trouble with a lot of you, but hopefully we are all grown up enough to have a meaningful debate on here about something that is very important to the team. Ill put a few things up, hopefully you'll give your views sensibly
Has he had enough rest, no close season
Has he got anyone pushing him for his place
Is he doing his job
Does he need to be dropped
Has he got to big headed
Is he thinking he's better than he is
Will or should coops keep playing him though this poor spell
And before you all jump on me, it is a poor spell, is it just one, possibly two assists this season
Does cooper keep finding a place in the side for him, even if he decides to play four, three, three, when aNo Tens not exactly needed
Could that system be better without him in it
Is coops playing him because of his price tag
Is he doing ok in your eyes
There's a few things to debate if you have anything else to add, please do.
I love MGW and really won't him to come good
MGW at his best makes Forest a better side.
Please let's have a grown up debate without insulting each other, looking forward to seeing your reply's.
1.) 25 Sep 2023 17:39:25
Needs a rest for a couple weeks.
Got to stop thinking he has to do it all.
Got to keep things simple at times.
Got to stop running round like he has eating too many skittles.
He is a good player, can pass and set up good attacks.
Does need to add more assists and goals though.
Sounds a bit scathing but he can be better.
2.) 25 Sep 2023 17:47:27
I'd stick with him mate, he provides the spark. albeit not lately, I definitely know he'll come good again.
3.) 25 Sep 2023 17:55:50
All the above what you posted. Wolves said he was a one trick pony, and that's passing with the outside of his boot. Does not have a second trick, it looks like panic when he gets the ball. Said before, SC wanted MGW, then they got Scarpa who can do everything MGW thinks he can do!. But Scarpa can do it solving a rubric cube. But never given a chance, it matters after training when the person SC puts his arm around is MGW!.
4.) 25 Sep 2023 18:00:10
Not panic!. He has no composure ?.
5.) 25 Sep 2023 18:00:40
Count me in Dream ?
1) How much rest did you need at 23, very little I'd guess. Just get on with it. Try being a bricklayers/ Plasterers labour for a month you'll be tired then Morgan.
2)He should have with Elanga and Odi both could do that job
3)Defo needs dropping hasn't had a good game all season, needs to regroup
4)Yes a right big head apparently illegally parks after training picking up. £90 fine for a Coffee every day
5)He definitely thinks he's great with his outside of the boot flick 20 times a game. It only worked once.
6) Cooper will never drop him because ever since he's been manager he's tried to resign his world cup under 17 side everytime one becomes available.
Vastly over rated for me Dream ?.
6.) 25 Sep 2023 18:08:13
When thou Rogie, Grealish sat on the bench for cith, pep think's he's a luxury player. When MGW is not playing well, he's a luxury player!.
7.) 25 Sep 2023 18:16:21
Well that’s a start lads thanks for taking part.
8.) 25 Sep 2023 19:11:52
Barren mate, we don't have another player like him. as I said he'll come good!
9.) 25 Sep 2023 20:10:17
I agree he will come good and personally think he needs a rest and drop down to the bench
Your right we don't have another player like him so it would have to be a change of system.
10.) 25 Sep 2023 20:23:38
Strange one dream, i know he's not 100%, but who would you have as a free kick taker, so i posted a while ago. So many games can be won and lost from set pieces. We don't seem to do great at them (again pointing out trippier earlier) gone are the days of the likes of pearce, ian woan etc. I know a lot on here will have there faves. It's just awkward situation mate.
11.) 25 Sep 2023 22:17:33
This season though Bowie he ain’t been very good with corners or free kicks mate weather its just a case of more practice, don’t know as yet weather any of the new lads can take a better corner or free kick, should he get preferential treatment, ie not being dropped or even brought off when not playing that well, didn’t save Worrell or Yeates after all. As I said in the post when he’s on his game he would always be in my team. BUT.
12.) 25 Sep 2023 23:26:54
Leave him alone he's ok and will get even better this year. Really think this is a fuss about nothing.
13.) 26 Sep 2023 08:11:50
What makes you think Scarpa can do what Gibbs-White thinks he can do if we hardly seen him, barren? We haven't seen enough of him to make that judgement. That said, Gibbs-White should stop the little flicks that he doesn't need to do and I think he should concentrate on the simple passes instead of over elaborating.
24 Sep 2023 13:30:01
Did anyone else spot the two Marinakis' es sat in the crowd yesterday, neither looking very happy at all, not reading to much into it, yet, but watch out coop's, still think the jury my be out on you mate, next run of game's very important.
1.) 24 Sep 2023 14:08:48
Did anyone recognise the away fans with every faith in cooper.
2.) 24 Sep 2023 14:24:12
The dream he will be gone after the next 3 games.
3.) 24 Sep 2023 15:00:29
We live in hope Skegs. Marinakas hasn't Spent 250 million to struggle in the bottom eight going toe to toe with the might of Burnley. ?.
4.) 24 Sep 2023 15:37:45
250 million nothing sadly in the premier to which i hate as you well know. But i SUPPORT and go along what's in front of me. that's what we do isn't it? Burnley aren't that bad a side btw balloons. And rogie the diamond. If every footballer fought as the irish did last night as the irish against the s. africans i'd understand and agree to there wages. ? but i never will sadly. Sorry just old school. Hard tackles no VAR no backhanders, no arabs, no sky, is what i am.
5.) 24 Sep 2023 17:18:43
We are mid table after some very difficult games. Not quite sure what people's expectations are? We're building a decent team, the likes of mgw and hudson-odoi clearly came cause of cooper. I can't believe "fans" are hoping that he's gone in 3 games! The same "fans" I called out last season as to who they wanted to replace him and got zero response! Yes, zarbi has done great at Brighton but if Potter stayed would they have done worse? Look at most teams that changed last year, any other success stories?
6.) 24 Sep 2023 18:03:21
Some 'fans' are deluded, Cockneyred. They seem to think we should be challenging for the title by the sound of it.
7.) 24 Sep 2023 18:58:18
Supporters want the team to do well. They don't want the manager to fail. Ridiculous nonsense. ?.
8.) 24 Sep 2023 20:45:02
Think you meant your team went toe to toe with Carlisle mate. ???.
24 Sep 2023 12:21:29
Morning people, not been on for a week or three, just wanted to give my opinion on yesterday's game, starting with Mr Cooper,
Why is it that he seems to scared to attack more from the beginning of games, yer I hear you, he don't won't to get thrashed, ok, but until the sending off, did it look like we were going to get a thrashing anyway, I think if we are honest we would all say yes, so why not start the game by at least trying to play some football, what message is it sending out to his players from the start, your not good enough to compete, we know we ain't, but just let the lads try and compete by playing some sort of football and not this defend, defend backs to the wall crap. Take the second half yesterday, after they had a man sent off the game changed completely, we did most of the attacking, weather they just sat back and let us knowing we would probably never score, I don't know, but at least we attract them, and looked a better team for attacking, so a question for you, should a difference of one man decide if you attack a team or defend for your lives, send a team out to play football is my opinion. Enough on that, my opinion of the team that played yesterday
Turner Again did nothing wrong.
AINA Brilliant yet again right or left
Aurier. Not at centre back
Boly Steady at best
Niakhate. Now he's back must stay in
Tavares. O dear, what does he give
Sangare. Did he actually want to come to Forest or was he just sold to us, looks very unhappy with life, not giving anything to the side as yet, hoping to see much more
Mangala. If the team attacks more we may see more from him, hardly seen yesterday
Domingues. First game, fantastic specially second half
M. G. W. Not at his best yet, but what can he offer to a low block side.
Awoniyi. Give's his all every game, how long can we keep him.
Subs just to say either or both Hudson odoi or Elanga should start most if not all games to help out Awoniyi
Monteil. Well done after his nightmare last week
All done, sorry bit long. COYR.
1.) 24 Sep 2023 12:31:43
That's one hell of a post Dream. Couldn't add to it if I tried. Perfect analysis mate ??? ?.
2.) 24 Sep 2023 12:36:51
Good post dream.
3.) 24 Sep 2023 13:06:05
Thanks lad’s just try to say it as I see it and no more ? after all its only football, far more things to worry about in this world, like the weather in skeggy ay mate. ?.
4.) 24 Sep 2023 13:17:41
I’d agree with all that Dream. As far as Sanghere is concerned ok he had a quiet game. But as I’ve listed on here previously after watching Arsenal dismantle PSV in the Europeans there is a big leap in power, pace and all round quality between the top of the Dutch League and the top of the Prem. I guess his challenge is to go from being a big fish in a small pool to becoming a big fish in a big pool. But I remember posters on here saying Anoniyi wasn’t good enough but give him time.
Not sure about Tavares he didn't get long enough on the pitch. Dominguez looked like he’d played in the Prem all his career!
5.) 24 Sep 2023 13:59:35
Remember how much Lodi was slated? I think he was the most important player to try and get. Tavares looks like a step back, it’s too soon to judge he’s barely played. I’ve got a lot of friends who are arsenal fans and they think he’s championship and best and we’re surprised we’ve signed him after staying up.
Anyway injured already so it looks like which ever way we look at it, our left back curse is alive and kicking.
03 Sep 2023 12:59:59
Was at the game yesterday, in a Chelsea Box at the side of all those lovely, fantastic singing shouting, clapping Forest Fans, they really were outstanding yet again yesterday, while I was sat on my hands not daring to clap or shout out in case of coursing any trouble, in the Chelsea stand, you lot were again being what you are, THE BEST SUPPORTERS in the land, what a atmosphere and what a game, proud of every Forest player yesterday every one of them gave 120%, great to see, but I have to pick one player out for special praise fom yesterday's game, Mr Forest himself Joe Worrell. I've called him this season, thinking he's not premiership class it's true, if he can turn it on in more games and perform as he did yesterday then Forest will have an almighty defence, fantastic well done Joe. But he wasn't on his own, weather it's the new signings coming in and they were playing for there places I don't know, but something made a difference, everyone, to a man, gave their all yesterday, McKenna, Bolly, Yeates, players that perhaps thought there places were under pressure , we're all fantastic. Witch brings me onto the deadline day business, Mr Marinakis what an owner of a club you are sir, may I say, on behalf of every Forest Fan, THANK YOU for the way you are backing our club, we should all be proud to have you as our owner, I certainly am. The business done in this window has been, I think best described as unbelievable, I'm sure it will take us too the next level and if the pressure forplaces makes us perform like yesterday, WOW.
I'm done Fantastic Players and Fans yesterday
COYR.
1.) 03 Sep 2023 14:28:54
Down at the Palace the bench is being warmed. Thought it was our loss, but with our new stopers I am more than happy.
2.) 03 Sep 2023 17:18:11
Good to see ya getting to the games again dream son ? hope your in a better place these days. I can hear ya now. I'm just nipping out to do a bit shopping wifey ?.
3.) 03 Sep 2023 21:11:21
Box at Wembley, box at Chelsea, can’t believe it Bowie me owd mate, all free as well, its running with the right people in the right crowd, mate, bet you didn’t realise that I’m in with the in crowd these days ?? feel a bit out of place at times me being just a old drayhorse drayman and them being business people, solicitors and the like, all with loads of dosh, but feck um I’m as good a Forest supporter as they are, I can bring um down to my level. Only get there through family relations, but if the chance comes along, I’ll take it. What a great day it was, the food even better than Wembley, the champagne and peeve ???, and to win the game ⚽️ Bloody marvellous, slept all the way back. Hope you and yours are all ok mate, take care.
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26 Sep 2023 14:07:49
Spot on there young man, trouble is nowadays Mc most players would want to walk away after getting a rollicking from a coach/ manager, spoiled brat’s with to much power and money.
25 Sep 2023 22:17:33
This season though Bowie he ain’t been very good with corners or free kicks mate weather its just a case of more practice, don’t know as yet weather any of the new lads can take a better corner or free kick, should he get preferential treatment, ie not being dropped or even brought off when not playing that well, didn’t save Worrell or Yeates after all. As I said in the post when he’s on his game he would always be in my team. BUT.
25 Sep 2023 18:16:21
Well that’s a start lads thanks for taking part.
24 Sep 2023 19:33:22
Bowie, mate I never said that history mean’s nothing, what I was meaning was no matter what the fans think about cooper and what he’s done for the club, ie promotion and keeping us in the premiership, if Marinakis wants him out, he’ll be out, I can’t say who’ll come in, no idea, it’ll be a great job for whoever gets the job SHOULD it become available, there will be loads of taker’s, and I’m not calling for cooper to be sacked in any way.
I take it you didn’t see the pair of there face’s yesterday. AND, AND, And, And as I’ve told you before, I agree with all you say about the premiership I’m in full agreement with it all mate. Answer me one question my friend, what was it 46 passes for the first goal yesterday, it was wasn’t it, how many passes would it have been had Kenny Burns or Larry Lloyd played yesterday, before one of them, had kicked a few of them tarts into touch, bring back the old days ay. All good here mate, hope its the same for you.
24 Sep 2023 15:17:48
Bowie hope your not classing me as a moaning git as I was only stating what I sore and in close up, the pair were not happy, simple as, I don’t know exactly what to read into that, can’t read peoples minds and I’m sure coops will get a little longer to get things right. I know you know your football, I also know you understand that coaches, players, back room staff supporters, anybody apart from owners, no matter what you’ve achieved for the club in the past, mean’s diddly squat any more, so as I stated watch out coops.