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17 Oct 2017 09:54:15
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16 Oct 2017 21:42:28
MW saying eric licau will get his chance when we need defensive minded players well Mr Warburton I have a message for you have a look at the goals conceaded in the championship table his interviews are really starting to p___ s me off.

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16 Oct 2017 22:03:42
If lichaj put a man of the match performance on and then gets dropped for the next game I will be fuming and warbo should be sacked.lichaj was quality at defending and also going forward put some good balls into the box and took players on.

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16 Oct 2017 22:25:14
You fume every Time we lose, so no change there.
We'll win Saturday so carry on fuming till then.
You want him sacked anyway,let's hear your solution to manager?
Sure it will be interesting?

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17 Oct 2017 03:03:34
I don't want him sacked at all 79, I just feel it's the same old record every time we lose unlike you I don't agree with what is the best thing to say at the time why would I want him sacked the club is stable just change the record a bit like you said Mills would lead us to back to back victorys ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚.

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16 Oct 2017 21:27:03
The Rangers fan who says Warburton thinks possesion is more important than winning might have a point. Problem is if only the bottom three have conceeded more goals and you have lost six of your last eight something is very wrong indeed. We need to get back to been more aggressive and more direct andrealise that possesion stats mean nothing if you can't defend and can't score. It as taken Warburton a dozen league games to realise Lichal is a proper defender although the majority of Reds fans have been saying so for weeks. MOM v sheep imo. I feel for Vellios because the way this player as been snubbed and humiliated is a disgrace despite five goals pre season and been a Greek international Warburton continually selects inferior players like Walker before him. The mind boggles. If we were doing well you might have to accept it but we all know nothing could be further from the truth. Over to you Mr Marinakis. COYR.

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17 Oct 2017 07:54:59
Totally agree

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16 Oct 2017 19:32:00
In pre-season I think a lot of fans were optimistic, We were scoring goals and generally played well, Vellios scored 5 goals coming on as a sub, and he's been dropped and put into the reserves,
Hobbs, Lichaj and Carayol barely get a game, I believe there's quite a few players now who aren't happy, and that rubs off onto the other players at the club.
They either need shipping out in January and replaces them or he eats humble pie and gets the players back on side.
These players haven't all of sudden become bad players, they just aren't motivated to fight, Warbo's man management skills need to be addressed, I don't want to see a change in Management YET, but Warbo you need to put some jam on the bread, because at the minute it's very dry.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it does, some of the play has been great to watch.

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16 Oct 2017 19:44:55
I like Roast ham on mine personally ๐Ÿž๐Ÿž๐Ÿž

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16 Oct 2017 20:09:29
Spot on Demis. We went into this season with realistic belief that the club is now being run properly,the stadium had some much needed tlc,the chairman talks sense,the fans are actively involved. The club is evolving behind the scenes. I think we would all settle for a mid table finish.
As much as I want Warburton to succeed, I cannot understand his stance on not playing proven,experienced championship players. To have a Greek international playing with the kids is insulting to say the least,Lichaj last seasons player of the season and Carayol was just starting to look good early season. Even McKay is getting less game time now.
You make a good point,maybe the dressing room is becoming divided?
We have enough quality to have a stress free season, if the right players are played. As fans,we are seeing the obvious.

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16 Oct 2017 20:15:57
Another good post

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16 Oct 2017 18:32:04
Murphy,Bridcutt,Cummings,Darikwa,MCKay,
Have we spent well?
CARLO

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16 Oct 2017 18:46:18
IMO Yes, what do you think Carlo?

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16 Oct 2017 18:57:49
Mckay yes, cummings maybe the rest no

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16 Oct 2017 19:05:58
Murphy, Mckay and Cummings yes, but i have read we are linked with another lightweight midfielder from St.Mirren Lewis Morgan but no mention of a versatile, mouthy heavyweight CB to pull the defence together, we all now know that is what we need so why doesn't Warburton, ๐Ÿ˜•

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16 Oct 2017 19:23:34
No doubt about it what bit of money mw was given was spent better than any other manager we've had in

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16 Oct 2017 19:45:13
Apart from Pearce obviously ๐Ÿ™„ Britt/ Antonio 22.5 million

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16 Oct 2017 20:27:55
Yes correct perks but mw wasn't gave 8 million to spend on two players and we don't know what the players mw has bought in will be worth when sold on so like I said the bit of money for how many decent players better than any other manager

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16 Oct 2017 20:48:58
Fair point Skeg.

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16 Oct 2017 22:06:51
Britt was 5.5 and Antonio 1.5 thatโ€™s not 8mill

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16 Oct 2017 22:20:44
I donโ€™t think this season for once is about money. There is enough talent in this squad, if utilised. For me the manager is making bewildering team selections. Worrall plays every game,admittedly has critics, dropped for Derby, just the sort of player you need for this game,Lichaj brought back in, motm performance,should have been playing all season. I thought Warburton was a good choice, he s either missing the obvious or deliberately missing the obvious.

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16 Oct 2017 17:21:13
I can see and have faith with what Warbo is trying to do.

What is clear is that we do not have a squad that is good enough to deliver the game plan.

My biggest fear is that we now seem to be linked with more Scottish imports who quite frankly are not up to the rigours of the Championship week in week out. This weakeness is contributing to the mistakes of our youngsters learning on the job.

Strachan is no mug in highlighting the restricted Scottish talent pool so please Warbo get McP to go source some strapping big lads with pace who can pass a football to beef up the spine of the team?

We cannot keep perming the midfield lightweights that are Bridcutt Osborn Vaughan, Clough, McKay, Cummings, Dowell Cash all of whom lose more balls than they ever win and not exactly blessed with pace when they are in possession?

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16 Oct 2017 17:46:49
Agreed. We aren't physical or nasty enough. Direby were there for the taking but beat us at a canter because we're far to easy to score against.
Every team that plays us must fancy scoring with the midfield and defence too easily breached. It's not great passing ripping us apart but just one runner allowed to carry the ball too far or one through ball that cuts through us like butter.
If we score first against Burton we could get a bagfull but if they have something to cling on to they are like a dog with a bone.
Big game for Warburton me thinks.

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16 Oct 2017 19:34:58
How many teams have got promoted from this league playing tippy tappy possession football with one up top?

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16 Oct 2017 20:44:59
Bournemouth Huddersfield Newcastle.

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16 Oct 2017 22:08:06
Bout mouth played two up top just like Newcastle and hudders.they also didnโ€™t play tippy tappy football in there own half they were direct in what they were doing.

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16 Oct 2017 22:41:54
Who was Newcastle front two in every game?
Who was Huddersfields?

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16 Oct 2017 22:56:53
Personally Iโ€™d play a 4-2-3-1 I think it offers balance, protection and guarantees chances.
Smith
Lichaj Mancienne Worral Traore
Bridcutt Boucalakis
Dowell (to cut in on that left) Clough Mckay
Murphy
Subs: Henderson, Darikwa, Hobbs/Fox, Vaughan, Osborn, Cummings, Carayol.
For me that team with the addition of Vellios, Brereton and Cash would offer enough depth and quality to not only concede less goals but start scoring more goals. I know some people will disagree with this but that is what will work in my optnion. Boucalakis is key imo his a big lad that will put tackles in and contributes going forward while allowing Bridcutt to be the solid defensive minded CDM out of the two. Iโ€™d love to see Vellios get a go but I canโ€™t see it unfortunately. Any way Iโ€™m looming forward to the rest of the season hopefully we can see a forest that starts performing to levels they should be

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16 Oct 2017 23:02:11
I didnโ€™t mean to put Clough at cam in my previous post I meant to put Osborn. For me Osborn plays his best at cam and influences the game much more. Clough is a good player but I jut donโ€™t think MW fancies him in our system. Maybe if we played 4-4-2 with Clough playing off Vellios or Murphy weโ€™d see the best of him but I doubt weโ€™ll be playing that formation

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16 Oct 2017 17:08:00
Time to give Vellios a chance. He always puts in a shift and might give us a bit more cutting edge. Maybe try him and Murphy together. Can always change it round it's not working out.

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16 Oct 2017 19:00:31
Velios velios velios???? Not even been in a squad warbs kniws something we don't. Oh walker and brereton are better!!!! My asre

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16 Oct 2017 13:47:09
One thing I really don't get is why are we conceding so many early goals? Are the players really not switched on from the start of the game? Is it a protest from the players about MW's tactics, so concede a soft goal to give him the message? You would have thought, or hoped MW would have them fired up comming straight from the dressing room? I'd also like to know why MW rates Walker more than Vellios? Walker is one player I'd be happy to see MW convert to a winger, as he may have more success than being a centre forward.

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16 Oct 2017 14:44:56
What about Brereton as well. His progress at Forest has gone backwards.Played out of position or not at all.
Zac Clough, 3.5 million, scored for fun at Bolton and think most fans excited about him signing. Gone backwards. Joe Worrall, like Brereton breaks into first team,awesome. Now gone backwards.Why?

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16 Oct 2017 17:23:09
Brereton been very disappointing this season not seen much of Zach but I was excited at his signing and velios should now be given a chance up front because were missing a poacher I just hope things get better.

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16 Oct 2017 19:02:32
Velios is a much better player than the strikeforce we put out. Butvits warburtons way or no way!!!!

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16 Oct 2017 13:10:15
I'm not for knee jerk reactions and I haven't posted for a while, so hopefully this will be a balanced appraisal of where we are.

Having viewed the last few performances I think we have grounds for positivity. Going forwards, we look dangerous. Especially Murphy and McKay who I can't believe was taken off yesterday whilst Cummings was kept on. The problem is that players are being played out of position constantly. Cummings and Brereton are not wingers, they don't have the delivery quality and should be played centrally. Despite this, we are reasonably fluid.

The defence is appalling though. Look at yesterday's team sheet: Fox, Mancienne and Lichaj as three centre halves. Useless! Fox should not be here and Lichaj is no centre back. Mancienne needs strength next to him, not two converted full backs. Traore for me is poor to say the least also. Without serious investment at the back we have no chance. We can't keep trying to outscore and giving away early goals. We need a commanding centre half and a new left back - but we knew that going into the season.

We also need to keep Osborn central. He was our bright spark and outshone Dowell and Clough (who I do not rate) .

Overall though, the team is far far too light weight. Look at the difference in stature yesterday. Davies, Huddlestone, Thorne, Martin etc are all over 6ft. We only had Murphy and Mancienne. The balance is wrong and the formation is changed far too often. I'd like to see a consistent approach, stop changing partnerships and give the team a chance to settle. If that doesn't happen then I don't see Warburton lasting.

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16 Oct 2017 13:58:52
If we as normal fans can see that the defence is rubbish and needs a good deal of work done on it why can't the manager, surely he has had enough time and games to see our problems, i am glad that he has seen sense and brought Eric back now he needs to reinstate Vellios and rotate him with Murphy,i am not one of the sack the manager posters but i think Marinakas has an itchy trigger finger i shouldn't wonder if we don't get a result he will be gone i expect Marinakas has someone in mind.
I am coming to the match on Saturday, the grandson and a couple of Reds are driving me up so hoping for a good result ๐Ÿ˜Š

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16 Oct 2017 14:02:57
Too late london reds. He won't get time to change again and look for a settled side with players played in their right position. Warburton is now on a must win next game scenario. I thought we played with a back four yesterday and traorrae looked ok mancienne is the problem. Fox did ok but neithwr he or mancs are any good in the air. Cummings is no winger but he did put some good crosses in all be it from wrong positions. I agree that clough looks poor but he is in and out. I just wish someons would take the time to explain the reasoning behind velios and hobbs. I know i sound like a scratched record but walker over velios? If hobbs cannot play 2 consecutive matches then get rid. I feel that warbs just has his pet players!!!!

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16 Oct 2017 14:06:25
Sorry you've lost me on Eric not being a centre half,he isn't and played right back and did a damn site better than darikwa,traore did his job and does most games,Osborn has improved this season and we have Vaughan ward and cash back all stronger midfielders than those on display against the sheep.

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16 Oct 2017 14:16:38
I think the substitutions all season have been under whelming. The Sheffield United game illustrated what a team should be doing to rescue a game as they bombarded us for the last 10 minutes as they threw on strikers to try and get an equaliser. Our subs never seem to make any positive change to really pressure the opposition in the last 10 minutes. We never change tactics and throw caution to the wind to chase a game just change the personnel to play the same way. Yesterdays game was a good example where we had fewer(none I think in reality) chances in the last 20 minutes than any other period of the game after the subs were made and Derby were able to see out the game comfortably. We just don't seem to be able to change gear. And yesterday's decision to take off our most threatening player was just a joke especially has he hadn't played for a month so was hardly tired.

The sad thing was Derby were there for the taking yesterday with the most inept team they've had for a while and we let them off the hook with poor defending and a lack of cutting edge and no real prolonged pressure. It is a recurring theme and needs to be addressed without delay and we cannot afford another poor display against Burton.

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16 Oct 2017 17:12:51
Great summary syred. Warbs is still confusing me. Eric shiwed a bit of bite yesterday but the rest really lacked the passion associated with the derby game!!!!

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16 Oct 2017 12:51:59
Bridcutt woeful needs to be dropped and if that performance from lichaj doesn't merit him starting next game I don't know what he has to do.

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16 Oct 2017 13:19:06
Personally would stick with that back four for Saturday on that performance,but think he'll change it and bring in Worrall for fox,purely because Burton are a side full of six foot plus players and Manc and fox not strong enough in the air.
Get ward in on right wing and Vaughan in centre mid and we'll be stronger all round.

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16 Oct 2017 12:40:43
Bring back duggie I would rather have a boring 1-0 win

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16 Oct 2017 17:22:47
You mean 1-1 draw ๐Ÿ˜€

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