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18 Dec 2017 10:24:56
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18 Dec 2017 09:24:06
We lose a game of football 2:1 away from home against a side currently 3rd in the league and some on here use this result as justification to call for a change in manager.

This alone convinces me that those people are and remain part of the problem at our great club. They have unrealistic expectations to start with and when instant success is not achieved they want to rip up the plan and start again. Every six months they take us through the same cycle of madness.
When we have a squad that has been shaped by Mark Warburton and his back room staff, then and only then can we make a judgement on the success or otherwise of our current manager.
Right now we have a mix and match squad brought in by our previous managers. I think Chris Cohen was actually brought to the club by Colin Calderwood.
A successful team and a successful club will come about by evolution, not revolution.
It will take the January window and the summer to properly mould a Mark Warburton squad.
This is not to write off our prospects this season either. With a few key addition in January I still think a top six finish is achievable. But in all honesty we still don’t feel like a club that is ready to make that step back to the big time.
Nothing said on this site and others will stop the foolish calls for management changes, but equally nothing will stop others from calling for the stability the club needs either.

Onwards and upwards

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18 Dec 2017 10:06:46
Wishey people have opinions and if they express them on here they get shot down by the likes of you and ff79. You defend warburton to the hilt but 12 defeats and no draws says something you chose to ignore. Its just a feeling that folk who travel to the games see the same mistakes week in week out by the same players and manager. Its looking forward that worries most they do not see warburton as the man. EG he invested big money in a 34 yr old when he had velios who was just as good. So can warburton manage players????

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18 Dec 2017 10:10:16
I agreecwith you that this club is not ready to take the step up for sure. But the way we defend and play at the moment it seems a long long way off.

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18 Dec 2017 10:21:55
Who's shooting you down?
I just have a different opinion from you.
I prefer the positive side of life,That's all

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18 Dec 2017 07:16:34
Warburton does not opewrate the basics, you win your home games. Away from home you try to get spomething out of the gamne. Brian Clough always said build from the back, we are not doing that at all. Our goals against are a disgrace. I am not aware of a worse goals against in 50 years.

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18 Dec 2017 09:05:05
Jake

Has it ever occurred to you that it is the players who cannot do the basics as our goals against column predates Warbo's appointment?

The players he inherited by and large are not good enough or too old or injury prone. We need a major clearout in the summer and fresh blood especially at the back and midfield.

Only then will the ball watching, sideways passing and lack of tempo be addressed?

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17 Dec 2017 23:00:46
It's interesting reading all your comments about defensive frailties.
How would you rectify this with the current squad?
Who would you play in midfield that would balance us with attack and defence in mind?
Thoughts?

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18 Dec 2017 07:33:26
Jamie ward in midfield simples. He gets stuck in and has pace. Again warburton has given him no gametime. Weird. Leeds let bridcutt go for good reason. Cohen hobbs were always a doubt but not backed up with alternatives. Mancienne weak and no skipper. Velios shunned no back up. In warbs we trust???

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18 Dec 2017 09:26:45
I see the Jamie ward idea?
He has been injured though for the most part of the season,so hardly shunned.
I was more interested in ideas of what team fellow posters would pick from our squad of players,that would make us stronger.

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17 Dec 2017 20:07:15
Life and death,football it s more important than that ,words of a great man.
But it seems not so for our beloved royal family ,no body gets married on cup final day do they?
CARLO

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17 Dec 2017 21:14:19
Not everyone likes football.

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17 Dec 2017 20:44:26
Quick wedding then off to the cup final, Just showing his new wife how it is in England
Proper chap. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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17 Dec 2017 22:34:32
There's a few on here, That's for sure. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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17 Dec 2017 22:52:34
Football will never be that important.

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17 Dec 2017 18:48:57
Warburton seems to be confident that 2 players could come in very early in the January transfer window.

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17 Dec 2017 18:46:19
Warburton has said everything is going well with Eric as far as his contract, a one year contract with the option of another year based on playing time.

If Eric was injury prone i could understand it, if Warburton really rated him i think a straight two year deal would have been offered.

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17 Dec 2017 16:34:17
Being at the game yesterday I,m getting concerned about the coaching at present ,to me quite a lot of the players just didn,t seem to understand what their role in the team is ,Don,t seem to have any interjection with their team mates .
Also their passion seems low ,not winning 50/50 balls ,ball watching too much ,they must come out more fired up especially early doors .
Come on get your sleeves rolled up.
Could that be Mills last game in red?
CARLO

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17 Dec 2017 23:10:57
What Carlo?you meen they get off the coach wearing earphones so they can't hear the managers instructions?
Sack em all,disgracefull.
Bet some even wore gloves?
As for mills? Unfortunately as Arnie said "I'll be back"😁😁😁
Merry Xmas Carlo and sorry no I'm not utf πŸŽ„πŸŽ„πŸŽ„πŸŽ„

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17 Dec 2017 13:53:38
We are mid table so good . WB is a manager waiting to prove himself and Forest is that club for him to do this. At this moment no player of proven ability will come to our club so those hoping for stellar signings must think again and are in cloud cookoo land. So except for Scotland and the lower divisions we are stuck with what we have got. The team will success as will WB if we as fans give them support. All successful teams do not both swop and change a manager or the players at the same time. STABILITY.

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17 Dec 2017 14:15:02
Who t.f is WB?

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17 Dec 2017 15:08:07
Fair point Doc about stability. However Just 4 months ago Worral, Osborn, cash and brereton were worth a combined 35 Million. Murphy Vaughan, lichaj, mills mancienne, McKay, Carayol, ward and clough, whilst not world beaters are steady for true championship. We have one young Scott who may not make the grade (but it’s early days) not. A team full of them. For all of us who want MW to succeed we can’t have it all ways and blame it on the Calibre of players because I don’t think it stands up. The absolute reality is this team is good enough to be consistent and the owners will without doubt let someone else have a go if we don’t become more consistent by the middle of next season. The team is underperforming but only be a shade, it might come right yet because if we’d had had two more wins I think most would be very happy with our situation. Christmas is key and could see us slip well into the bottom half or grab a couple of wins that keep us in that frustrating near but far bracket.

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17 Dec 2017 16:28:50
2 far-Where on earth did that 35 million figure come from?? But I agree with the rest of the post πŸ‘

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17 Dec 2017 18:20:51
Tone, I was being a bit flippant because some of our fans were quoting crazy figures in the summer about the value of our academy players. Clearly no where near worth that but half useful championship players I’d say mate.

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17 Dec 2017 20:50:19
Tap never mind who WB is.
Who is TF?
WTGOR?πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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17 Dec 2017 22:13:35
WB Warburton ! E

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17 Dec 2017 13:50:37
I am staying positive. After a poor first half against Bristol we came back strong and almost took something from a game I didn't see us winning before hand. With 3 good signings in Jan in key areas we can push on and hopefully cut out the mistakes. Then another couple in next summer we need to see real improvement next season. that's how I see it. Also, I read that big sam has to sell midfielders to bring in Nzonzi. I reckon Warbo should be on the blower asking how much they want.

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17 Dec 2017 18:55:44
Dowell?

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17 Dec 2017 12:36:55
Fellow reds, Christmas is almost upon us and we have moved you might say forward. I feel that within football we have become insignificant, a soft touch if you like. They say their are no easy games in the championship but I see us that way, when struggling clubs play us they get a lift that is there springboard and they do. I hate this, especially when in newspapers pre match reviews we barely get a mention, then in the post match report we get all the bad, in full. Now with this Jan window we will now see what we are made of, I expect some significant movement with players out and in. This new owner and manager must move us forward leaving the last few years a distant memory, it is what we expect as fans . Now is the time to move forward or next season does not bare thinking about. It will happen I am confident it will . Hope it, s a merry Christmas.

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