28 Dec 2017 17:11:01
Just 1 more post on work in progress i can't get my head round this work in progress enlightened me please
Arguably our best player so far this season Keiran Dowell will be off back to Everton in May so can someone please tell how this is progress.

I think off the field it's 100% better, but arguments will occur on here but dowell is superb for us i'm sure Everton will be eternally grateful for is progress, but unless I'm completely stupid which I'm not wheres the progress for us? Keiran will go back to a new contract and fair play to the lad he's top draw but we'll be back to square one to me that isn't progress 😆😆.

1.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 18:07:24
This is the age old argument against loaning young players from big club. If you develop your own player then even if you sell them it is your own club that gets the money. If you pay for a loan player then you lose money and the parent club get the cash or a better player.

2.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 19:23:28
Johnny66, Dowell has been very good but I don't think he has been our best player. He scores some great goals but lacks the physical ability we require in the championship.
Not great on Tuesday and backed out of challenges.
I totally agree with what you are saying and, yes, off field we are a much better place but we are in the championship and need to be physical. Ken Warbo and his diddy men philosophy means we would have to be excellent for 90 minutes which they have rarely been.
We need some scrappers and battlers in the mix but the MW philosophy is pretty fast paced and quick passes so your are spot on, very little progress has been made.

3.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 20:14:20
Totally agree it's a very hard physical league people harp on about passing game me personally I'd rather get 3 points every week or at least scrap for a draw someone mentioned joey Barton type and tbh there right I went to Bristol City aden flint jesus he's a monster but it's that type of physical present required plus a settled side would be a bonus

4.) 28 Dec 2017
28 Dec 2017 20:15:31
He’s not a world beater but he’s better than clough

5.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 00:32:49
Like them both,play them both? Rightly or wrongly we invested over 3 million pounds on the lad and he's being frozen out.

6.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 02:38:31
I feel sorry for Clough though, he did pretty well end of last season after we bought him and scored and assisted in some big goals and moments which kept us up then this season he has barely played and certainly hasn’t had a run in the team due to Dowells excellent form but maybe if he had played more he would have been better!?

7.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 09:57:44
Dowell is very talented but I can't help thinking that we don't play two up front because we have to accommodate him. Sometimes you need to take out a good player to benefit the team.

8.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 16:07:20
Derby seem to do ok with robust rubbish players working hard together.

In fact, they are doing better without their promising young players.