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23 Aug 2018 22:21:53
Think with all the 13 new signing 5 of which are new to championship i.e. Portuguese lads soudani. Karanka as been playing them altogether to soon. He should go back to basics and gradually bring them in over time.
He needs to pick players in right positions
And formations.

I'd go 442 or 352 at home this Saturday
With byram Robinson Dawson coming into the back 4 Watson colback holding cash lolley out wide. Soudani grabbon up top. With One of them dropping off in hole
If I was going 352
It would be Dawson fig fox
Byram Robinson as wing backs colback Watson cash with soudani grabbon up top.
I prefer 442 though.

Thoughts anyone?

Red always

1.) 23 Aug 2018 22:30:28
Red you can harp on all day about your formations,but karanka will only play one.
It's a pointless suggesting any other as it won't happen.

2.) 23 Aug 2018 23:12:31
They've had a full pre-season and should be ready to play.How long do we wait until they're ready? They need to start showing us what they can do because if they can't do it now they've got no chance on a cold night in January. Must agree that on current form Cash and Soudani should play and I would definitely bring in Robinson and Byram because defensively we are poor. Let's try and keep faith with the new boys and try to encourage them on match day.

3.) 23 Aug 2018 23:53:10
If karanka persists with just 1 upfront and no plan b. It could cost him his job.

4.) 24 Aug 2018 00:28:45
Are the Portuguese players the 3 Italians in disguise - I Remember how well they played in the 1st game and then. .?

5.) 24 Aug 2018 08:43:24
Read a quote from Sheffield u manager last week, when asked about his formation in defeat, he said “to quote the greatest English manager everBrian clough formations don’t win or lose you matches players do “

6.) 24 Aug 2018 13:30:09
The thing is guys I could understand you saying this if we were in QPR's position, but as things stand we are 4 points off the top, and have played some good teams! There are valid points with performance's and defence, which hopefully will only get better. I don't think we should be dropping the new signings, as they are better than what we had. With the old guard in, those battling draws we got, would probably have been defeats last season. If we beat Birmingham on Saturday, we will be well up in the mix! COYR

7.) 24 Aug 2018 16:16:19
AK uses 14 players on matchday and changes the system to suit so why are we all getting hung up on old school systems?

8.) 24 Aug 2018 17:35:52
Half the time old school systems work,especially at championship level,just ask Warnock and pullis.
Football is a simple game made hard by managers trying to play like real Madrid,but without the quality to do so.

9.) 24 Aug 2018 20:15:04
Warnock is the exception 442 /451 merchant who looks like doing a Direby this season. Pulis has not got Boro up yet and football has changed since he dragged Stoke up so let's just see what happens?
I see Pulis is playing 3 at the back so he is as flexible as AK!

10.) 24 Aug 2018 21:02:33
So why didn’t you have the hate for warbo that you do for karanka ff?you just stated exactly what warbo did but you loved him.confused

11.) 24 Aug 2018 21:50:14
I don't hate anyone Sutton quite the contrary,it's not in my nature.
I hope karanka turns us into world beaters,I just put my opinion over and you can read what you like into it.
I pay for my season card and say what I see,but am not naive enough to think everyone feels the same.
You do hate warbo and that's worrying as he has a better win rate ,which you can't argue with,was never allowed the funds and had only one transfer window to prove himself,plus saved us from relegation with the players he inherited.
I sincerly hope karanka is the one,but from what I've seen I have my doubts.
Hope that clears it up for you

12.) 25 Aug 2018 00:09:08
FF, can you articulate those doubts ?

13.) 25 Aug 2018 00:17:09
Just want to get there red and we all know when we get there you'll lose more than you win.
Hope your chosen ☝️does it.

14.) 25 Aug 2018 00:33:19
I'm not a Boro fan redinexile so wouldn't know.
What I do know is he'll get them promoted as sure as the grass they play on.

15.) 25 Aug 2018 09:59:06
My doubts about karanka bringing success 2 star,
His trademark for success is a tight defence and were looking anything but in that department.
We won't score hatfulls of goals,put the two together and that's not a recipe for success.

16.) 25 Aug 2018 10:14:53
Ff I am of the opinion that the defence will improve as will the attack! Problem solved!

17.) 25 Aug 2018 14:15:47
And do you not think the defence and attack would have improved if Warburton had been allowed to spend £25M?

18.) 25 Aug 2018 14:36:03
We'll never know RedCyclist.

19.) 25 Aug 2018 14:37:15
RC the defence in no way would have improved under him, though the attack would have improved massively as he took the attitude of sod the defence and just hope we score more than the other team. Was Warburton too thick to realise he had loads of money to spend, or was he not trusted with serious money and was only brought in untill a supposedly better manager became available.

20.) 25 Aug 2018 14:59:58
Like I said then.

21.) 25 Aug 2018 17:35:08
Yep FF79 - that about nails it for me.



21 Aug 2018 21:13:34
What players are still left that need loaning out or contracts cancelled?

Red always

1.) 21 Aug 2018 21:48:58
Way too many to remember.

2.) 22 Aug 2018 15:07:09
Henderson, Evtimov, Ward, Ariyibi, Lam, Clough and Vellios. Then it remains to be seen if we have loan (or loan with view to sell) plans for Smith , Worrall, Bridcutt, Yates and Brereton.



17 Aug 2018 22:07:44
We should not be loaning brereton he should be our 3rd choice striker in front of Murphy. He should get plenty of game time coming off bench starting off games. The lads only going to get better. He's only 19 years old.
Playing in his favoured position with the better players we have this season will do him loads more good.
And his value will ticket in today's crazy market
Keep hold of him.

Red always

1.) 18 Aug 2018 07:23:59
Brereton and Murphy are different strikers and fit different tactics.if you want to play away with a lone striker to win balls in the air Murphy is First choice and brereton third maybe 4th if you include Soudani.if you want a goal scorer and your going to play football and want to bring the midfielders into play Grabban is 1st choice and brereton is second.maybe even 3rd if ya want to put Soudani in not saying get rid but brereton and Murphy play different not saying get rid but he needs to wait and take his chance when it comes or decide to go out on loan until jan.
He played last season and he also went to an england tournament so maybe he’s being looked after properly rather than burning him out.the comp didn't finish till end of July.

2.) 18 Aug 2018 09:03:24
It comes down to how badly the club need the money to balance the books. How do we know that Forests plan was always going to be offloading a youngster or two to balance the books after the summers spending. For me, 8m for Brereton presents good money. Whether he should be getting game time or not is another story but the fact is he isn't, AK sees him as 4th striker right now.

3.) 18 Aug 2018 11:11:10
It's obviously not down to money as it's now a loan window?

4.) 18 Aug 2018 11:35:04
Perks you literally sent that post ONE second too early!

5.) 19 Aug 2018 09:35:17
I wouldn't be surprised to see BB go and another striker come in on loan.



16 Aug 2018 15:06:37
Unless we are bringing in another forward of prem quality. We should not be letting brereton even go out on loan.
He should be ahead of Murphy every week.
Murphy Is past it and we should be developing the likes of brereton and worrell not loaning or selling them.

Red always

1.) 16 Aug 2018 17:29:56
I think they would both benefit from loans if they are getting game time but I wouldn't like to see them sold. Both could have big futures ahead of them. Lascelles was ripped apart on here and nobody was bothered when he went to Newcastle. Now he is on the fringe of the England squad and worth 30 mill.

2.) 16 Aug 2018 18:16:41
Nobody was bothered when he went to Newcastle? Didn’t we get a pretty good deal and a loan back for the season? Nobody will moan when we do well out of a deal which to be fair at that time we really needed

3.) 16 Aug 2018 18:59:17
I agree with everything you are saying 2tone. What I would say is that we are now in a better situation than back then. We are not under pressure to sell to make ends meet and that gives us more bargaining power.I personally wouldn't like to sell either player sold just yet. In an ideal world we should encourage them to develop as players and increase their potential selling price of that were to transpire.

4.) 16 Aug 2018 19:53:49
Brereton is 19 and Worrall is 21 and they have played 53 and 65 senior matches each in struggling teams and are still learning their trade despite winning honours and trophies with England. They are our future as were Lascelles and Darlow who were sold in a fire sale.

Neither are going to be the stand out performers this season to get us our target of promotion but need to develop their game playing week in week out and would benefit from a loan deal. Under no circumstances should they be sold as they will be regulars next year in the Championship or given the chance if we go up where they will have more time to play and improve.

If you want an example of allowing a player to develop then it's Jack Grealish arguably the Championship's best young prospect. He is 22 but now has 137 senior games (100 in the Championship) under his belt, having had a loan season at Notts. Now worth £30m and would have been at Spurs if the builders had finished on time.

The smart business is to get them playing a full season on loan to develop them and their value then loan a Premiership striker to complete our Championship squad?

5.) 16 Aug 2018 20:54:47
Cash in and get a striker that can actually score goals now. 20m for Brereton in 3 years time or 180m for getting promoted to the Prem come what may?

6.) 17 Aug 2018 02:20:02
Cash in now?the window is closed !

7.) 17 Aug 2018 20:21:17
I would loan him out get game time get used to scoring he didn't get many last season yes he played out of position a few times but look at grant 19 last season for Notts already scoring so do bb the world of good game



13 Aug 2018 15:05:28
I'd change majority of players tomorrow
But I'd still play grabbon upfront with brereton he needs to get off mark for confidence
Don't know why some are slating him.
He's scored goals wherever he's played.
But being a loan striker is hard for any forward. Only forward that springs to mind could do it was collymore. But he had everything.
Karanka needs to experiment with 2 upfront
Maybe 3 at back 5 across middle.

Red always

1.) 13 Aug 2018 16:09:11
Grabban isn't on loan

2.) 13 Aug 2018 16:19:34
Lone lol

3.) 13 Aug 2018 16:49:00
Every time Grabban fails to score I blame Murphy. :)

4.) 13 Aug 2018 17:38:38
If he was to play 2 upfront it would be grabbon and soudini

5.) 13 Aug 2018 19:52:04
I'd drop grabban and play soudani

6.) 13 Aug 2018 20:00:00
XI for Bury.


7.) 14 Aug 2018 00:32:34
Hefela will start

8.) 14 Aug 2018 01:59:31
I would play soudani behind grabban and leave carvalho out and play cash and goncalves and maybe watson and Yates in the middle of the park. Think geddy and colback need a well earned rest

9.) 14 Aug 2018 10:36:46
The boss has said he wants to give every player a game so he won't play Grabban who has games under his belt.

I think if Dawson isn't going to start Saturday the might play three at the back to give all three centre backs a run out. If they don't play three at the back then he will play everyone who has not had a start.

Byram, Hefela, Worrall, Robinson
Bridcutt, Yates
Soudani, Concalves, Appiah/Cash?

You can mix and match the front four/5

10.) 14 Aug 2018 11:30:52
I think grabban will get some time tonight good chance of him getting a goal to kick start him off




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10 Nov 2018 17:55:30
Still in 6th four puts off top.
But if you look at league table currently top 10. Sides are all capable of getting a play off position. Nobody's running away with league. We are starting to gel now.
And our strength in depth. With maybe couple more additions in January could make us automatic promotion contenders.
Don't know who might be available in January but I'd be looking for
A keeper pants still worries me.
A midfielder creative box to box type geddys been hit miss since cheek bone injury
Maybe a winger and forward also. Depends on new signings.

Red always

1.) 10 Nov 2018 18:43:31
Norwich scored 2 in injury time, so sadly 6 points off top.

2.) 10 Nov 2018 20:09:41
Shame that. Results not too bad elsewhere. See Lampard's bubble burst today 😂 but they do play entertaining football 😆

3.) 10 Nov 2018 20:33:18
It's not what other teams do result wise,it's about what we do.
Beware of villa now Smith has taken over,he plays positive football and with there squad they will win the league.

4.) 10 Nov 2018 21:04:17
You say it is about what we do, we are 3 points in front of Villa and you think Smith will go from them being 3 points behind us to table toppers by the end of the season.

5.) 10 Nov 2018 21:19:44
Yes,we don't win enough games and think villa will.

6.) 10 Nov 2018 21:37:47
It was good to see that Stan had a dig at the sheep. He obviously still holds NFFC in high regard.

7.) 11 Nov 2018 09:39:43
Lost only 2 matches, the third best defence and creeping up the scoring charts , great results against the better teams ( Norwich apart), other top teams yet to play one another!

We will be in the mix at the end provided we just keep plugging away and everyone gets behind the team and raises the roof at home.

8.) 11 Nov 2018 10:14:27
Why to you keep going on about raising the roof?
The fans did at times yesterday,but when the first half is dire can you blame them for having a breather?mostfans wanted to anserfard on as we were getting a few shots in,in the second half,but your wonder manager won't do it.
The team need to start games better not pants passing to Dawson who passes sideways to figs who passes to colback who passes sideways to geddy who passes it back to Dawson who passes it back to pants.
That happen time and again first half and is very frustrating to watch and not what the crowd want to watch,that sort of play knocks the stuffing out of the fans.



05 Nov 2018 17:10:21
We've got one of strongest squads in championship and in January I think our owner will want to strengthen again. But which players will be gone in January
Watson bridgcutt Osborn possibly
And who should we try and bring in.

Red always

1.) 05 Nov 2018 17:28:22
I can't see him offloading Osborn to be honest.

2.) 05 Nov 2018 17:32:22
I’d like to see another LB come in, a CM younger version of Geddy and a quality winger that’ll do me fine. Maybe a keeper depending on how pants does.

3.) 05 Nov 2018 17:55:26
Defo keeper winger rest depends on new player bedding in

4.) 05 Nov 2018 19:25:49
How can you say we have a strong squad have you already forgot about the burton game we have. Strong 13-14 at best we need to add experience come January and please no young Portuguese players

5.) 05 Nov 2018 19:55:19
Here we go again, let's get rid of Osborn, unbelievable!

6.) 05 Nov 2018 20:25:32
Would be daft to get rid of osbourne but seen dafter things done

7.) 05 Nov 2018 20:50:17
The players that should be moved on is probably Bridcutt Aribiyi, Jordan smith and Henderson.
Send Yates and Appiah out on loan, then we need another left back for cover for Robinson and a younger Geddy sort of player but with experience and another Keeper, I think we will have bids for Lolley Cash and Osborn and possibly Fox, I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them is sold, and if that happens another stellar signing to appease us fans.

8.) 05 Nov 2018 21:46:17
Skegsey the Burton game was a blip. Karanka rested just as many in previous rounds against better opponents and still won. Our squad in most departments we've got good cover and loads of competition for starting

9.) 05 Nov 2018 21:48:40
Osborne will struggle to start many now but would still fetch 4/5m. And we still need to work within ffp.

10.) 05 Nov 2018 22:51:25
that's the biggest load of crap I've heard on here. always there's been too many as u call blips if we lose grabban and lolley who would replace them

11.) 06 Nov 2018 06:46:15
Yep no other team has ever lost to a team lower in the football league even with most there first team to laugh at some people on here making a mountain out of a mole hill

12.) 06 Nov 2018 14:39:32
Lol Sutton mountain out of a mole hill maybe you should tell that to the fans that turned up to the game and spent there hard earned money to watch a team that didn't turn up 😆

13.) 06 Nov 2018 16:48:24
Not to mention having to have a session in the pub on a school night,just to blank put out the horror of what we had to witness.😂😂😂😂



03 Nov 2018 17:10:15
10 goals in 11 games.
All you who were saying grabbon was waste of money. Lmao
Well done boys.

Red always

1.) 03 Nov 2018 17:47:52
Red, was it not you saying that Carvalho shouldn't play as the game would be too physical for him? Can't really throw the Grabban one back at the other non believers.
To be fair Ansarifard had no impact on the game.

2.) 03 Nov 2018 18:01:00
Yep fully agree with you Red.
Posters on here advised me a while back that they were not saying he does not score but does not hold the ball up. So he should stop this bad habbit of scoring goals and hold the ball up more or get rid of him. ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️😃



02 Nov 2018 22:45:45
Karanka won't change his formation.
So I'm hoping he chooses this team tomorrow
Janko Dawson figs Robinson
Cash geddy yacob Osbourne
I wouldn't play calvalho the games going to be too physical.

Red always

1.) 03 Nov 2018 08:17:29
He'll play Darikwa, Watson and Carvalho.



01 Nov 2018 11:37:21
It won't happen but we should go 442
Against sheff Utd
Janko Dawson figs Robinson
Cash colback geddy lolley
Murphy grabbon
Don't even entertain Portuguese lads. Game will be too physical.

Red always

1.) 01 Nov 2018 11:40:05
More chance of winning the lottery

2.) 01 Nov 2018 12:47:02
Colback is suspended.

3.) 01 Nov 2018 12:55:01
Yacob then if colback suspended.
Watson too slow

4.) 01 Nov 2018 14:34:10
Watson will play on Saturday whether we want him to or not.

5.) 01 Nov 2018 15:03:08
Colback is back ain’t he? Served his 1 match Tuesday?

6.) 01 Nov 2018 15:29:29
AK will use Darikwa on the right, but won't shift from using Guediora and Watson in midfield. I agree I'd like to see Yacob start, but he'll be on the bench. Appiah should start and Grabban come on when he's tired but that won't happen either. I'd have Osborn in the hole behind Appiah/Grabban but that is unlikely too. Looks like Soudani will be absent again. I'd love a win, feel we might lose, most likely outcome a point.




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03 Nov 2018 11:56:38
Can't see him adjusting to championship but it's a free transfer nothing to lose

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02 Nov 2018 20:04:05
I've not been happy with karankas team selections and why we brought 3 very young Portuguese lads one which cost us 13m. When he could of got better proven players in. Same with soudani untried and injury prone.
But who would we like to replace him. ?????

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24 Sep 2018 15:13:45
I'd prefare us to make at least 7 changes for cup game
Steel Dawson figs concalves Dias yocab bridgcutt
And it will still be a good 11

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27 Aug 2018 14:09:45
Ghosts last season warbo played brereton on wing. Karanka accasionally played him as lone forward but in a struggling side fighting a relegation battle.
He as not even been in a squad this season along with worrell wasn't even included in squad in cup when karanka made bout 10 changes.
Karanka had already made up his mind they not his type.
Am starting to think ak is clueless next few games will decide if he's learned who he should be playing

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27 Aug 2018 11:22:05
Agree. Brereton should be getting games for us. To see how he plays with better players around him. Baffled we are selling him so cheap should be at least 10m with sell on clause

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11 Nov 2018 14:22:16
I'd love Butland But will go to a prem side. I'd get Westwood in from sheff Wednesday he's not getting picked
We definitely need pants replacing. He makes errors every game and if we don't address this he will cost us promotion

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05 Nov 2018 21:48:40
Osborne will struggle to start many now but would still fetch 4/5m. And we still need to work within ffp.

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05 Nov 2018 21:46:17
Skegsey the Burton game was a blip. Karanka rested just as many in previous rounds against better opponents and still won. Our squad in most departments we've got good cover and loads of competition for starting

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05 Nov 2018 17:55:26
Defo keeper winger rest depends on new player bedding in

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03 Nov 2018 11:59:51
It's time karanka tried 2 upfront even if it means playing 3 at back. After all we are at home. Attack attack

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