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29 Dec 2017 15:34:34
I was one of the fans who really wanted stability to stick with a manager, give them plenty of time to get a decent backroom staff together and to try and implement a way of playing that can work through from the youngsters to the first team. I am however struggling to see enough positives from MW - the way he plays should be worked on through the academy and I'm sure we would see results in the coming years here comes the problem!

I cannot think of any manager who has ever been successful who hasn't played to his players or collective groups strengths, the level of success doesn't matter - it could be winning the champions league, a cup or winning a relegation battle. It looks to me that we are playing to our weaknesses in an attempt to play in a way that some of our players just cannot do.

We do have some good players and if they are encouraged to play to their strengths rather than their weaknesses we could easily have an extra 6-10 points this season. Come on breadman - play to our strengths and we will all support you, keep messing and it's a downwards spiral and more fans will get on your back.

2tone

1.) 29 Dec 2017 17:05:20
But he’s not got a full squad capable of playing the football he wants. He’s not moaned about the squad that he has but it’s certainly obvious he feels he needs more of a certain type of player.

You’re right, we need stability but more importantly, and possibly above other things - we need patience and belief. No one is saying, “let’s see how this works over the next 5 years” - it’s a case of us understanding that right now, we are simply a mid table team trying to improve.

That improvement comes from a structure, a philosophy and a recruitment plan which are all on the same page.

Give this man another season and if it’s not working we look at our options. I’d also make a case for us being unable to attract top, top managers if we continue this revolving door policy.


2.) 29 Dec 2017 18:43:56
2 tone your bang on regarding players playing to strengths.Joe Worrall is a good example.When he keeps it simple he looks class but sometimes I feel he takes risks with the ball when it's just not necessary and seems out of character.I do have to give MW credit for giving some of these young men a chance.Past managers have been guilty of having a closed door policy on young players development.


3.) 29 Dec 2017 19:18:51
Ldn red - he’ll never have a full squad capable of playing the way he wants, that’s a completely different level to where we are and would cost millions!! If he isn’t careful he will ruin some of our ‘better’ players as they will forget what they are actually good at. I want to back him and give him a few years but I do want to see steady signs of improvement


4.) 29 Dec 2017 19:56:43
I’m not saying you’re wrong - but what I will point to is that in past/current seasons, teams which play a very similar style to us have competed at the top end or been promoted without spending millions.

Teams like: Sheffield United, Reading, Fulham, Bournemouth, Watford and Swansea.

MW won’t be looking to try and spend millions, he’ll be selecting players which fit his style.


5.) 29 Dec 2017 21:51:21
Bang on 2tone. Best post on here for ages


6.) 29 Dec 2017 21:53:35
Another season... You really think so?
Please lnd red enlighten us to why you think he should be given another season?
You state you want to sit down all of whom disagree with the way of the breadman... Again please enlighten us? Myself like many feel exactly like 2tone.

The inability to address many shortcomings is not how structure is built.
Structure comes from the chairman down to the staff who steward each week.
There seems to be a piece missing where Warburton is concerned his way of tactics, leaving players out in the cold and playing out position isn't a structured formula.
Yes structure takes time I agree but how much time is required.... 2,3,4 seasons?
So lnd red please with your infinite wisdom and inside knowledge tell us why Mr. Warburton is the messiah?


7.) 29 Dec 2017 23:11:04
I’m not one for enlightenment, I have an opinion, just like everyone here.

There’s certainly negatives with some of MW’s decisions, not all I’ve agreed with. But why kick us when we’re down though? Why get rid of the manager so quickly and start from scratch - AGAIN.

I feel it boils down to this. We have a young squad incapable of playing MW’s tactics on a regular basis and some fan favourites not getting as much game time as people would like. I’d be the first to say that we should’ve signed a CB and a GK in the summer, I’d like to think we tried (Hector & Federici) at least! The defence is certainly our weak point and it’s of course a shortcoming thay it wasn’t fixed back then.

The team he has now isn’t even his yet. There’s plenty of players in there which don’t suit the way Warburton wants to play which I think is largely why some players are being played out of position or not at all (Vellios). I personally feel we need to trust in a philosophy/manager and buy players which are suited to that style. It’s the only way we can make a real success of this - not by bringing in someone new and having them reshape the squad their way.

If we’ve learnt anything over the past few years, it’s that changing manager takes us at least 8months to reset. It’s been the thing which has largely held us back in recent years.

What we have now (I think), is a manager who wants to promote from within, has a clear idea of how he wants us to play and is willing to build a squad capable of doing that in his style. It doesn’t just happen in 1 window (incredibly rarely!).

Worth noting quickly - if we lose MW, we also lose our DoF, Frank McParland. Not something I’d want to do in a hurry.

Warburton aside for a minute - and remembering last season, where do people feel would be an acceptable place for us to finish based on our squad. Top half would be a lot of progress in my book.

If we can manage our expectations and take the lows with the highs, I think we’ll all be better for it.


8.) 30 Dec 2017 09:38:31
LDN Red

I agree with what you are trying to get across, but i feel 2 things are getting on most people's nerves are, we let the opposition score too easily, and there has been little sign of it being sorted, and inspite all of our possession, and odd patches of really good football the opposition mostly out play us.

It is a slow process, and we should try to be more positive, and hope for the best, but with each loss it gets harder.


9.) 30 Dec 2017 10:25:00
With you there 100%. Who here could say watching us lose is much fun?! I was at the Wednesday game and felt for much of the match we were actually miles better than them. 3 one on ones and a strong penalty shout - we were unfortunate not to go in 3-1 up at half time.

I digress.

The defence is a cause for concern and a large one at that. Most attacking possession based sides do leave themselves open at the back. We do need to be more solid but I’d wager that this is a personnel issue more than anything else.

Look at Huddersfield’s style of play (Champ and Prem), they look to out score you rather than play bland, slow football where you’d be lucky to see us score a goal. Progress is slow but my god, weren’t we a lot worse before?

The statement from the new owners and in particular the new chairman stated they wanted stability. This comes from trust and again, managing our own expectations.


 

 

14 Jan 2017 18:51:19
25 million for a club like ours which is running at a loss, has no real assets and no structure still seems an awful lot of money. Fawaz thinks it's worth double that? Whose mad? Is it fawaz, is it the yanks for spending so much time and effort on a gamble that the selller might just crumble and give it away at the last minute or is it the fans who think the club is something that any sane businessman would buy at 50 mill? I'd suggest it's all three of the above?

2tone

1.) 14 Jan 2017 19:03:50
It's a gamble but run the club right and we could be worth a hell of a lot more. just think with fawaz gone we will have the 10k back that are staying away whilst he's in charge bringing more money in. get Nigel clough or rowatt in and we will never lose another game and be promoted first season which again brings even more money in! simple


2.) 14 Jan 2017 19:25:28
Lets take it on dragons den see if peter jones will invest


3.) 14 Jan 2017 19:41:00
Nffc is a brand, and as one of only 5 English clubs to be. European champions, then yes, worth 50 mill. Famous throughout the world, and that, you can't buy. Well you can, but you know what I mean!


4.) 14 Jan 2017 19:42:28
what crystal ball you been using?


5.) 14 Jan 2017 22:31:49
None of the championship clubs make money unless they have parachute payments. The difference is a prem team costs 150M and a champ team can get brought for sub 30M. Get it right. get paid.

Our attraction is we have history and fan base. but no ground. We are in this melee every year until we either go up or down. Same as 16 of the other teams. Championship teams lose money. They operate on negative equity. Like it or not Fawaz has helped us exist. JJM would have just been the next one to spin us for another 5 years.


 

 

27 Aug 2013 01:06:47
ive been told Rhodes is going Wigan on the final day of the window? Info from a big scouse fan with good links around the nw

2tone

1.) No you just read the rumour yesterday. Wigan may however have the cash to buy him after the sale of young midfielder James McCarthy.


2.) Forest rumours

{Ed034's Note - this is a forest rumour as fans on here have been talking about him. If any fan doesn't like the rumour being posted, ignore it and move on to the next


3.) If i'd seen that rumour yesterday why would I just post it again? As I said in the op I was told this by a lpool fan who has good links around the north west.


4.) And its the same Liverpool fan who told me that I wouldn't be able to understand carragher on tv! So he us 100% correct with his info so far this season :-)

{Ed034's Note - he is awful


5.) Not according to Blackburn MD who says they will not sell to Wigan. Its going to be an interesting week to see who we get and who goes. If we could sell a few Rhodes could be affordable with the financial rules.


6.) He has a terrible tv voice which seems to get higher and higher the more animated he gets! Knows his stuff though and says it how it is

Keeno


7.) Wigan have signed Grant Holt - why would they need another?


 

 

 

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28 Jun 2019 14:38:04
Don't worry guys - O'Neil got paid off in emojis so it hasn't cost us.
Sorry to see him go but I didn't think he was the right man.
We are a joke but it could be worse-at least it happened quickly and nobody had chance to say bring back prince billy .

2tone

1.) 28 Jun 2019 15:30:04
Bring back Billy lol.


 

 

08 Jun 2019 01:40:02
Skeggy how was your holiday mate? I'm off too turkey next Friday- ready for it ????.

2tone

1.) 08 Jun 2019 08:27:07
You lucky sod it's going to be roasting out there.you will need plenty of beer to keep you cool.yes holiday was great not long enough could do with another week lol


 

 

09 May 2019 11:20:50
Ed/ skeggy can you pass on contact details to/ from myself and skeggy? We might be able to catch up for a pint over the weekend when I pay a visit to Skeg Vegas 🍻⚽️.

2tone

{Ed033's Note - yes, next on my list


1.) 09 May 2019 11:47:33
Yes definitely up for a few 🍻🍻 2tone not sure how to pass on contact details though


2.) 09 May 2019 12:55:46
Just remember 2tone what ever goes on in Skeg Vegas,stays in Skeg Vegas!


3.) 09 May 2019 16:47:48
Thanks Ed 👍
sgetty 🤣


 

 

22 Apr 2019 18:04:18
Fancy thinking too much of a player costing a club record of 13m - he should be getting mom every week.

2tone

1.) 22 Apr 2019 18:30:08
He would need to be played to achieve that


2.) 22 Apr 2019 20:30:55
But if he played well he would be played every week 🤷🏻‍♂️


3.) 23 Apr 2019 14:30:02
Like when he came if the bench changed the game and scored a thunderbolt. Then next game he was drooped 👌🏻


 

 

09 Mar 2019 17:28:37
Great result, just need to get back to back wins and really put the pressure on. COYR.

2tone

1.) 09 Mar 2019 17:41:58
Trust in the irish up there with the best that ever wore the shirt.
Just get behind the team they put out.
Defends sorted,pants a different player under Martin,
He went around the ground applauding every stand after the game,different player,got a massive round of applause from me.


2.) 09 Mar 2019 17:48:34
Agreed ff he seems transformed actually warming to him now thought pele looked decent broke play up well and then distributed it well


3.) 09 Mar 2019 17:50:04
Just about right , 3points 3goals clean sheet teams around us dropping points , full house my the cool pint l am drinking now tastes good .


 

 

 

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14 Jul 2019 17:50:05
6m if correct is a great deal for forest and for Ben - good luck, your hard work deserves a chance in the prem.

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14 Jul 2019 16:11:30
Hulk hogan would be better - we wouldn’t get bossed around at corners anymore 💪.

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14 Jul 2019 16:09:30
I’d give a thumbs down for that bsered 🤣 Ben is full of energy and commitment but just isn’t great- probably do ok as a bench warmer/ sub/ utility man for 10-15 minutes in the prem but we need more than that.

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04 Jul 2019 14:10:59
Doesn’t mean anyone will take him or that it won’t still impact us financially-he was the best of a poor bunch for chunks of last season.

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04 Jul 2019 14:08:58
? The only possible problem with wanting players with pace and skill is that we might not have heard of them - Really? I’d say the only problem with a player with pace and skill that we haven’t heard of is that they are likely to be seriously lacking in other areas of their game?
I like to be a bit positive but we do still need to be sensible.

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19 Jul 2019 16:41:37
I can’t wait for an owner or a manager to say they’re looking to add a few average players, a few older injury prone journey men and an extra physio to help deal with them 🤣.

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19 Jul 2019 13:02:19
Have I missed something about ffp being ditched? We all know what’s needed to get promotion-score goals don’t concede many, dead easy but nothing’s guaranteed and you cannot just keep spending, writing off huge amounts of money and go again. And unless I’ve missed something, paying contracts off does actually still mean paying contracts off and funnily enough costs money. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Mistakes constantly being made by numerous owners and managers and fans adding to it doesn’t bode well.

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14 Jul 2019 17:39:44
I’ll give you that skeggy -not much competition though 🤣.

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14 Jul 2019 16:14:43
I heard Stuart Pearce is hiding in the broom cupboard and billy Davies is in the sluice room cleaning up.

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09 Jul 2019 16:43:20
The amount of players we’ve moved on, who have gone on to perform well doesn’t bear thinking about, so I’d say that would be a good deal Rutland 🤣.

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