27 Nov 2017 08:13:38
I am not anti-MW and think he's taking us broadly in the right direction. You can probably sense a BUT coming. But 10 defeats already is a terrible record. Tellingly, we have not drawn a single match (only Bristol Rovers and East Fife in all 7 English and Scottish professional divisions have also so far drawn no games this season) . To compete effectively and maybe become a promotion candidate, some more steel needs building in to enable us to close games down and scrap ugly for points. We have some lovely ball players but look physically small and weak compared to other sides. Some more power and muscle is my January priority.


1.) 27 Nov 2017
27 Nov 2017 12:00:15
DrN my posts have been saying that for a while now, the inability to get a battling draw. Fefending set pieces and closing down still seems problematic.
We are in a reasonable place in this league considering where we came from and promotion with this squad never a priority. Mark warburtln is so full of footbal cliche's that irritate.
The commentary on the bbc website said that forest are continuing with the warburton way of playing it out from the back but cardiff have them sussed and are closing down quickly and denying any space. mix it up please.


2.) 27 Nov 2017
27 Nov 2017 12:50:55
He seems to be focused on playing "his" style regardless and use his favourite players when ever possible.
No plan B as we again saw yesterday when he waited till 70 and then threw on the subs???
I don't think it helps that he has never played at this level


3.) 27 Nov 2017
27 Nov 2017 13:18:46
Reddog68

Did Mourinino, Fergusson ever play Premiership football.

Pearce, Di Canio, and Hasselbaink all played at the top, none were that successful.


4.) 27 Nov 2017
27 Nov 2017 13:41:26
I would agree with all if you here, and think it sums up our situation pretty well. For me, MW hasn't done badly so far, but the inconsistency from his teams, and some of his erratic decisions has led some fans to question his ability. Personally, I think MW lacks the experience due to his non football background. He was fortunate at Brentford and Rangers where the cracks were papered over by the promotions, and you could afford to over look these short comings. For me, it's now all about getting the next transfer window right. We need more firepower, pace, defensive resolve and more creativity. The question is can MW create that winning formula?


5.) 27 Nov 2017
27 Nov 2017 16:31:10
Grey and Red
Who has mentioned premiership football?
For the record we are in the Championship lol
The point being MW has only played non league where Furvason and Jose have played at a higher level and have nothing to do with MW

All I have said is I don't think it helps but it has made my day to hear a "fan" who thinks we are in the premiership 😂


6.) 27 Nov 2017
27 Nov 2017 17:53:23
Reddog68

If i remember right Fergusson managed Man Utd in the Premiership, but never played in the Premiership, or it's equal.

Mourinino has managed Chelsea, and Man Utd in the Premiership, but never played in the Premiership, or it's equal.

They have both been successful in the Premiership as managers so their lack of playing in it has not stopped them from being successful.

Warburton has not played in the Championship, although I'm not suggesting he is as good as the above, if they can be successful in a league they have not played in why can not Warburton?

Very few good,or great players make good,or great managers.


7.) 27 Nov 2017
27 Nov 2017 18:01:44
Red dog the point he is making is that you don’t have to have been successful as a player at a certain level to be a success when managing at that same level in the future. Blimey it’s tough going in here sometimes 🤔


8.) 27 Nov 2017
27 Nov 2017 18:42:29
2tone
I got that mate but found it a little strange to bring 2 highly successful managers into it when we are talking about Warbo, hense the play on words and laughs
We can throw names into the hat all day
Gary "Rat boy" Neville played at the highest level under Fergi but sucked as a manager

I just feel that playing no higher than non league "possibly could" be a hindrance as he uses text book systems and can't call on judgements based on his experience of playing at a decent level
It either works or it doesn't which is why we don't draw


9.) 27 Nov 2017
27 Nov 2017 20:13:54
Only Playing non league football shows your ability as a footballer not as a man manager or a tactician. I don’t always particularly agree with MWs tactics but I don’t think it’s got anything to do with his actual footballing ability or the experience he gained as a player. Non league footballers can offer a lot of positives that high flyers from the premiership wouldn’t even understand.


10.) 27 Nov 2017
27 Nov 2017 21:09:58
As stated in my post, I don't think it helps
That's all I'm saying


11.) 27 Nov 2017
27 Nov 2017 21:34:00
The other point to make here as well is Warbo is what I would call a text book coach. Having taken all the fa coaching badges, he has been trained in a certain way, and thus delivers his set up as such. An example of that is zonal marking. Ironically, Stuart Pearce is the same in that you have these set ideas, and can't or won't deviate when things go wrong, as the coaching badges don't tell you what to do, that comes from experience.


12.) 28 Nov 2017
28 Nov 2017 06:08:15
My point exactly Murdoch