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17 Oct 2017 09:54:15
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16 Oct 2017 17:19:32
LDN Red. I wouldn't be happy selling our best players.
I am just stating facts nothing more.
If warburton continues his ways come January we will be fighting a relegation battle.

His No2 was alleged to be a good defender yet we leak goals.!
The talent is there and some of it is wasted by being played in incorrect positions and holding back players not getting a chance in the first team.
Yes i agree he is the best mangager forest have had but he is not the one to take the club forward.

His tactics are one dimensional and the teams we play are aware of it.
I like others do not want to see our great club fail again with bad management and tactics etc.

Believable2 3Unbelievable

16 Oct 2017 20:39:26
Right then we've heard the same post over again.
Tell us who you think should be manager?

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16 Oct 2017 21:25:02
Luis Enrique to play the proper ticataca
Samuel Allardyce to get us Promoted ASAP
Chris Houghton when he leaves Brighton to build us what Warbo is struggling with.
Simples!

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16 Oct 2017 21:57:36
Thought you were behind warbo red?

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17 Oct 2017 07:45:09
Hi Fawaz’s Bank Balance - kind of you to start of a new rumour yet fail to say anything in the way of fact.

Must we listen to this again?!?!

The facts are they Warbs does and has had a plan B, we regularly change shape during games altering between 4 and 3 at the back. If you didn’t notice on Sunday, we played a higher percentage of long balls from the back than previous fixtures. I suppose when Osborn moved to CM in the Newcastle game, that was an accident?

I’m afraid I heard little fact but plenty of opinion - which you’re entitled to have!

If he’s our best manager in a while then stick with him, show faith and let him build something special. This side is still a couple of transfer windows away from where Warbs needs it to be!

PATIENCE.

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16 Oct 2017 08:44:57
If Forest lose to burton i think it's time to bite the bullet and get rid of the breadman.
Why wait until January?
If the decline continues division 1 will be on the cards.
Poor squad choices, formations and tactics are failing the team.
I appreciate it's easy to blame the manager but results do not lie and he make the decision on who plays and where etc.

Believable3 3Unbelievable

16 Oct 2017 09:48:36
Wondered how long that would take for get rid comments, its patience that's required not knee jerk reactions.

We played alright and just didn't take our chances when we had them.

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16 Oct 2017 10:10:27
totally agree, he is only been with us 5 minutes, what is it with people losing run and its sack the manager, not worked before, give the man time . please!

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16 Oct 2017 12:20:18
we officially have the worst form in the league. I agree we need to give the manager more time but it gets to a point where you have to accept that we will soon be starring relegation in the face. let's hope he manages to turn it around because I've seen no improvement so far. on a side note, forests MOTM on Sunday - Lichaj by a country mile.

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16 Oct 2017 21:27:34
How long does he get / how many losses until you think we need to change?
Personally I'm in two minds and to be brutally honest I haven't seen enough of us playing this season to have an opinion that is balanced - what I have seen suggests that he doesn't adapt to the opposition either before or during a game - and plays players out of position / in a formation they clearly aren't comfortable with.

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17 Oct 2017 06:00:19
Except that's exactly what he did do against Sheffield Utd. He should be given until January

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16 Oct 2017 08:43:26
I would agree that our defence is not all the problem it is the lightweight literally and metaphorically mid field. We never replaced Henry Lansbury like for like . Osborne is best on the wing and I am afraid bridcutt is afraid to tackle or pass in a forward direction or go past a man . However the management team can only do they're best with offers for players and if they don't want to come what can they do?

Believable2 0Unbelievable

16 Oct 2017 04:47:59
Bbc site says we are after St. Mirren winger Lewis Morgan 21. Scotland U21. Can he play centre back??

Believable1 0Unbelievable

16 Oct 2017 07:28:34
So with MW at the helm we only look at players in the Scottish market?
Slightly hindering us a little don't you think?

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16 Oct 2017 08:17:04
Gordon Strachan hit the nail on the head. The talent pool in Scotland is not physically strong enough.

If Forest keep signing these lighweights we will be playing League 1 football next season.

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16 Oct 2017 08:29:08
Redfin It is a new Manger we should be looking for not not a Scottish lightweight.

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16 Oct 2017 14:21:27
There may well be one manager available in a few weeks time. Martin O'Neill is the one manager we have never had that we should have had and he showed the other night he can still get sides up for the challenges. He may well have one more job in him and if the RoI don't qualify for the World Cup he may just be available for the January transfer window.

I'm not advocating change as such but availability of alternatives may be just as important in the timing of a managerial change as results.

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16 Oct 2017 20:37:46
O'Neil once stated in a tv interview that he would like to manage Forest before he hangs up his managers jacket and I hope he is true to his word
Saying this I hope that MW can find the right formula and change our fortunes but with us conceding most games and never looking like we can score a hat full I doubt it

People say you can't keep changing managers, you need to give them a chance to stamp their mark and I agree as long as the manager is the right one
Is MW the right one? I hope he is but with his dodgy selections and tactics I fear he is not

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16 Oct 2017 21:52:56
Another way of looking at it is,most of the players he's inherited.
He has to sell our star striker.
He's given a budget and wage structure to work to,which looks low.
Can't see Oneil working with those restraints.
If you look at the big picture,we are signing young players for the future,
At the end of the season we will be saying goodbye to Fox Hobbs Eric Mills Vaughan Chohen Ward Carayol.
Most contracts are up.
Part of that is the reason we havn't signed defenders yet,
You can't buy a team when you already have a 25 man squad,it takes time.

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17 Oct 2017 09:39:22
We should have a self imposed transfer embargo on all things Scottish.

Martin O'Neil will not come back into club management for family reasons.

Warbo is staying as the three standout candidates who would do a better job are not available to Forest.

We need to get through the season to clear out those whose contracts expire next year with the exception of Lichaj.

We need to sign/loan a couple of strong pacey midfielders, pick the best 2 central defenders for Warbo and the team to survive the season.

Other than that we are going in the right direction of travel!

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15 Oct 2017 17:57:03
Warburton has no plan b.
I was on holiday back in june and got freindly with a gang of Rangers fans. how right they are. they slated warburton stating he plays his way regardless off the players abilities playing from the back
and having a habit of playing his FAVOURITES and lack of tactics when defending.

Believable5 5Unbelievable

15 Oct 2017 18:19:57
Same story here, Rangers fans in my family said the same.
Fact is we've lost 7 games already. Only 1 other team has lost more.Plenty of possession with no substance and we don't move the ball quick enough. McKay chance aside the rest were half chances.

Agree6 1Disagree

15 Oct 2017 18:36:41
He baffled me today with his decisions,but if we start calling for his head and the Greeks oblige,then we are back to square one.
New manager comes in and if he's not performing to your liking after a dozen games,you want another.
There's a lot of work been done and plenty more to be done,but we're not splashing the cash and you get what you pay for,got a fully fit squad again now,bar Cohen,so got to give it longer or we might as well fit a revolving door to the managers office.

Agree7 6Disagree

15 Oct 2017 18:55:21
Appreciate what your saying FF79 but I'm gearing up for another scrap at the bottom come the end of the season.
Folk have slated past managers but I find this slow tip tap football boring and predictable.

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15 Oct 2017 19:15:45
Think we'll manage mid table,we've not got the players for a relegation scrap.
Think he'll be given at least till Xmas,but the owners will not want relegation after getting so many bums on seats,so warbo will know better than anyone that results need to improve.

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15 Oct 2017 19:36:54
why wait till xmas, time is right after burton game. more games for new manager to stop the rot

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15 Oct 2017 19:57:31
keeper not good enough, center backs not good enough, we need a captain with a voice who can organize is the breadman up to the task yes if he changes his ways and plays his best players,why don't he play hobbs or velios,should of gone 4 4 2 today

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15 Oct 2017 21:07:10
Give over with all this changing manager nonsense. We have commenced a major rebuilding of the club and we need to recycle at least another 6 players to play competitively and the way Warbo wants to play.

Agree7 4Disagree

15 Oct 2017 21:24:12
It's alright getting rid,puts the club back in turmoil,coaches mcparland,players that were signed,all have to go the new boss will want his own men.
Costs millions and no guarantee things will improve on the pitch.
This is how this club has got in such a mess and some of you want more of it?

Agree4 1Disagree

15 Oct 2017 21:43:25
Totaly agree red in ex. No new manager. Just realistic fans please. We stayed up on goal difference. We were a wreck off the pitch. Mid table great but as long as we stay up i am happy. Carry on the rebuild and look for improvement next season.

Agree7 1Disagree

15 Oct 2017 23:55:18
He’s had more time and better players than pm did last season and we still aren't much better off if anything.we have good possessions stats that should keep us up.
Fans cried out for pm to go yet people stick up for warbo when the defence is still no better.

Agree3 1Disagree

15 Oct 2017 23:55:37
The club needs consistency! It cannot afford to keep rotating managers every season. What do people think will happen if we change manager?

We’re undergoing a huge renervation currently and we got back 18months if we don’t continue. Those asking for Warbs to go must ask themselves if they got too used to the Fawaz revolving door policy that they themselves condemned.

Baffling.

Agree3 2Disagree

16 Oct 2017 04:51:11
Change managers again and think of the cost. That means no new players in Jan or another imbargo. Madness.

Agree2 2Disagree

16 Oct 2017 05:12:32
This is how the fans who want to sack MW look in my opinion:
Last season: FAWAZ OUT!!! WE WANT STABILITY!!! Thank god we survived!

This season: SACK THE MANAGER! We need to act now! We should be near the top half!

I’m not saying that anyone is right or wrong but we do need to have stability and perspective. We’ve lost a few games, we’ve won a few. Look at the players on the pitch, they didn’t look like they’d lost confidence, didn’t go negative, they kept trying to play and created chances. This just shows that the players believe in MW. We unfortunately have pretty much the same defence as last season, and quite honestly I felt comfortable when we were defending yesterday. I loved attacking, I hated losing and as my family will tell you it put me in a mood. I didn’t blame the manager, I didn’t blame the players, I accepted we lost and was gutted we’d lost to the Sheep Botherers. So please instead of going back to Fawaz style revolving doors and instability. Accept that we will lose some, we are improving, we aren’t the finished article and we will be fine.

Agree6 2Disagree

16 Oct 2017 06:32:40
Ormfitt. warburton has one style of play,no plan b as he always refers too.
A minus goal difference and players who can't hit a barn door,a leaky defence like a dripping tap!
The manager picks the team,leaves decent players out. need i go on!
Come Jan you will change your mind about the breadman if he continues his way of playing and squad choices.

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16 Oct 2017 09:23:00
No Fawaz’s Bank Balance, it’ll be you who complains again in 6months when we’ve sold our best players, change our system and struggle again to reach the top ten.

I suppose you’ll be happy with that? It seems so. Warbs is the best manager we’ve had in a long while, he needs at the very least until January of next season.

Amazes me how people have no foresight. We’ve been here before!

Agree3 1Disagree

13 Oct 2017 22:51:24
3 points on Sunday will put us only 6 points off an automatic promotion spot.

Just goes to show despite recent doom and gloom if we can sort out the defence we are contenders?

Believable6 3Unbelievable

14 Oct 2017 07:19:50
Would sorting the defence out compromise our attack tho?personally don’t think we have the defensive personnel for him to sort it out,he should of sorted this pre seasonqhen he knew the defence wasn’t good enough.

Agree5 1Disagree

14 Oct 2017 07:27:58
If we don't get anything we could be 6 points off the bottom 3. It just shows what a close run competitive league this is.

Agree3 5Disagree

14 Oct 2017 12:13:01
Let's stick to cup half full?

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15 Oct 2017 14:46:00
And no points will put us 5 points about relegation zone

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15 Oct 2017 15:10:26
Why hasn’t warbo played lichaj?im seriously doubting warbo decision making.the game went flat when he made his subs.poor management in my eyes.

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15 Oct 2017 15:16:45
It's same old story all the possession no end product and can't defend as a team it's no good having all the ball unfortunately it doesn't get you points

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13 Oct 2017 21:52:55
Two results tonight prove that international breaks are bad .
Bristol and Cardiff had momentum and it gets broken up,the buzz of winning gets forgotten.
To many,to close together.
Fans don't want it and I doubt players and managers do either.
Most championship sides could carry on playing ,all you lose is a few players in general.
Two weeks off and next playing Saturday,midweek and Saturday again.
No good for game or fans.

Believable4 1Unbelievable

15 Oct 2017 10:26:24
4 1 to the Rams

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11 Oct 2017 20:56:39
Forest looking to sign QPR midfielder Luongo in January.

Believable0 6Unbelievable

12 Oct 2017 17:47:34
I'd rather have bidwell

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11 Oct 2017 12:20:44
Shay Given looking to join a championship club to extend his career at the age of 41
Not saying we are even interested but surly his experience would make it worth trying for him?

Believable10 1Unbelievable

11 Oct 2017 13:28:40
At 41, I'd say he's too old now, and would rather see one of our many goalkeepers given a go. I also have to say you can see the progress Smith is making each game, so would be happy to stick with him. It's the four people in front of Smith that are causing us problems!

Agree6 5Disagree

11 Oct 2017 15:45:33
A quiet, 'stay at home' goalkeeper is 50% of the problem with any defence.

A keeper that gives a defence direction and confidence is worth their weight in gold.

For example, as goalkeepers Paul Smith and Lee Camp were of similar ability but as soon as Camp came in, Morgan and Wilson actually started to look like defenders! No coincidence!! (I'm not saying I've have Campy back though)

Agree7 2Disagree

12 Oct 2017 14:05:03
My moneys been on Given since the window closed if Smithy gets the wobbles over the next few weeks.

However he does seem to be stepping up to the plate and if we can get our best defenders on the pitch the goals against will reduce.

Main priority is a new centre back and to sort out the right back/midfield berths as the current combos do not work.

I think we would be a much more solid team with Lichaj and Ward playing on the right?

Agree2 1Disagree

12 Oct 2017 19:55:49
I'm with Trickster on this hence the post
Smith has stepped up but too quiet for me
He needs to be vocal and rollock the back 4

Agree1 1Disagree

12 Oct 2017 21:29:37
Won't make any odds while you've got darikwa at right back,lads a liabilty.
Smith's getting better with every game,can't st the same for darikwa.

Agree2 1Disagree

08 Oct 2017 11:44:45
After reading on here the comparison of styles between England and Forest who else believes that Football Coaches are ruining the game and taking away our national style, in particular the British type of play.
When play our 442 style properly at pace its hard to beat.
What do people think?

Believable8 2Unbelievable

08 Oct 2017 20:33:48
Only thing you can say is that since 1966 we've won nothing playing mainly 442. Don't think the game has been ruined,you have to adapt to rule changes as well.
If you go back we had one sub,you could pass the ball back to goalkeeper and pick.it up,
You could tackle from behind.
Offside was easy to execute.
Game has changed a lot.

Agree2 1Disagree

09 Oct 2017 07:21:23
Not ruined but we shouldn't try and replicate continental football, we just don't have the players to pull it off. Crouch up front, long ball, that's what I say.

Agree2 2Disagree

09 Oct 2017 18:00:48
Football is an ever evolving sport both in rulesets and tactics. Gone are the days of long balls and lumping as players can generally read those balls and defend against them easily. Nowadays you switch the ball quickly or you play patiently and try to drag the opposition out of position.

The current meta Tactic is 343, which players are now playing at club level, so it makes sense to mirror that in the international scene too. Before that it was 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. The pace and and style of the games have been influenced by the M word, where the more attractive footballing teams and technical players are dragging the game to being less of the typical English game and more towards the South American and Spanish style of play. Personally I think the old style of play with more direct passing and getting the ball out wide to a winger or up to an ogre in attack, can still work at club level when you can coach the players day in and day out, but international football needs the players to be comfortable with what they know and how they play.

Agree3 1Disagree

09 Oct 2017 22:05:54
Wales 0 v Ireland 1 Winning at its best by the Sourcer's Apprentice and his Rotweiller!

Football has not changed its just about getting the best out of your resources and playing winning football?

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10 Oct 2017 20:46:16
I saw the comparison between Wales and Forest for the goal last night. Taking unnecessary risks at the back.

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